Search:
Attention Honda Civic Visitor:  Remove this block by logging in above or registering.

Welcome to ClubCivic

Club Civic is an online Honda Civic forum and community for all Honda Civic enthusiasts. Whether you own a Honda Civic Si, Ex, Type R, Dx, Lx, Cx, Dx, Vx, or even a hybrid you will find valuable information and car parts on this site. Take a look around to view Honda Civic discussion; including a photo gallery, maintenance information, tech tips, as well as ways to get better performance from your Honda Civic. Visit the member’s garage to view and rate other member’s Honda Civics. Click here to start viewing the Honda Civic Forums. Before you start posting on this site you will need to register. If you are already registered and not logged in, please login here.

Browse the forums by generation by clicking below or browse all honda civic forums.


Go Back   ClubCivic.com - Honda Civic Forum > Honda Civic Technical > Engine Tech / Drivetrain

Notices

Please SEARCH Before Posting a New Thread. ->
Ready to Post a New Thread/Question? ->  



Backfire!

Engine Tech / Drivetrain


Technical forums are exclusively for technical discussions.
Thread Makers: Thread titles must summarize the technical question or problem, and the first post must include the year, trim, and any mods for your Civic.
Responding Members:
Limit your posts to helpful responses, and do not tell members to "Go Search", unless you also provide some specific guidance on the technical question or problem.
All Members: Rude or flaming posts will not be tolerated, though civil debate and disagreement are acceptable.

User Tag List


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-15-2010, 10:49 PM   #1
reg_lus
Registered User
 
reg_lus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fresno
Age: 22
Posts: 411
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default Backfire!

I was watching youtube and they have all these civic's that backfires with all these flames! It's kinda crazy how it does that!
Is there any way how my single cam can do that? Well, I've got AEM INTAKE, HEADER, STRAIGHT PIPE ALL THE WAY TO MUFFLER...does it matter? lol i dont know anything..lol
reg_lus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 10:56 PM   #2
civhatch92
That's my honda.
 
civhatch92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Pennsylvania
Age: 26
Posts: 4,026
 

Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default

2step revlimiter.
civhatch92 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 11:01 PM   #3
reg_lus
Registered User
 
reg_lus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fresno
Age: 22
Posts: 411
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default

but dont i have to chip my ecu?
reg_lus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 11:45 PM   #4
VSP
Just hand me the wrench.
 
VSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: O-town Micky Mouse land
Age: 29
Posts: 735
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default

Nah. Google "rev limiter flames" and cross reference some of the products (Bee*R, for example) that pop up with the associated videos. Should be an interesting place to perk your curiosity and start your research.
__________________
(by UltraMagneticAL)
"now i'm not a mechanical or manufacturing engineer..."
(reply by under8seconds)
"Yeah, well I am."

Bluring the line between hobbyist and enthusiast since 2001.

My MOSTLY STOCK NITROUS-POWERED EJ8 M/T SLEEPER BUILD/REPAIR THREAD, for your pleasure and enjoyment. It's fun. I promise.
VSP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2010, 12:29 AM   #5
2NRSTV
Team Exile/ADO Garage
 
2NRSTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Monterey, CA
Age: 27
Posts: 741
 


Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default

Well, the Bee*R system and other systems like it are 2-Step ignitions.
I'll be nice and give you a low down on the system, reg_lus.

A 2-step is pretty much a system that puts 2 rev-limits on your vehicle. You set them to switches, like if you want one rev-limit when the clutch is pressed it (for launching) and one for when the clutch is let out.
How many switches you can have on the system (or rev-limits) depends on how many steps you have. So a 3-step will have 3 rev-limits and a 4-step will have 4 rev limits.
For most rev-limiters, it cuts the fuel. That is why you don't usually see flames. But the problem with cutting fuel is, it causes a very lean condition that can damage the engine.
Also, 2-steps can be utilized to initiate sequential misfires, causing load, which will actually spool turbos, so you can launch your turbo car with positive boost instead of vacuum.

The Bee*R system, which is the also a 2-step (2 stage rev limiter) cuts ignition, not fuel. That is why there are flames coming out of the exhaust.

I recommend the Bee*R Type H system. I also recommend removing the Cat if you know you're going to activate the system because it may cause damage to it.

There. There's a start for your research. But do like VSP says and google it. There's a lot more to 2-steps and their related systems that you should know before purchasing something like it.
__________________
Feel free to visit TeamExile.Org to ask questions.
Or Email me directly to Tuner Steve
2NRSTV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2010, 01:44 AM   #6
Indy_Civic
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 552
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default

or put some spark in your mufflers like on monster garage
__________________
2012 CBP Si Sedan
1995 Honda Civic EX RIP
Indy_Civic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2010, 01:55 AM   #7
2NRSTV
Team Exile/ADO Garage
 
2NRSTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Monterey, CA
Age: 27
Posts: 741
 


Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default

Won't really help. Civic's burn too clean to have enough fuel in the exhaust to ignite by a spark plug. I already tried.
__________________
Feel free to visit TeamExile.Org to ask questions.
Or Email me directly to Tuner Steve
2NRSTV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2010, 07:54 AM   #8
VSP
Just hand me the wrench.
 
VSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: O-town Micky Mouse land
Age: 29
Posts: 735
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default

(not my topic, but) Thnx for the info, Steve; you've always got great hands-on info on these kind of things. No ass kissing, but I like your website, too.
__________________
(by UltraMagneticAL)
"now i'm not a mechanical or manufacturing engineer..."
(reply by under8seconds)
"Yeah, well I am."

Bluring the line between hobbyist and enthusiast since 2001.

My MOSTLY STOCK NITROUS-POWERED EJ8 M/T SLEEPER BUILD/REPAIR THREAD, for your pleasure and enjoyment. It's fun. I promise.
VSP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2010, 08:26 AM   #9
CDubs
Registered User
 
CDubs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Prospect, CT
Age: 22
Posts: 1,762
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default

wow just reading this makes me wanna go tell my friend to go cut his cat in his WRX before he 2 steps it, but he is an ass and thinks he knows everything so illj ust wait

back on topic wow steve thats some good info, but is there any way for a dual or single cam to just rev high and as it goes down rev again and see if it will pop a quick flame? i have an Apexi N1 can (exhaust lol) so will it work, just out of curiousity
__________________


Uploaded with ImageShack.us
What i wish my old civic looed like ^^^

Click me to view the super slow build thread!


Quote:
Originally Posted by XpL0d3r View Post
Like buying alcohol for the SOLE purpose of getting hammered. $10 of cheap rum, or $30 for the same amount in name brand. Both will get the job done just fine.
CDubs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2010, 04:18 PM   #10
Deadswitch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 74
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default

AEM has a nice 2step system, i know it worked well with bisimoto's 700 hp wagovan
Deadswitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2010, 05:24 PM   #11
2NRSTV
Team Exile/ADO Garage
 
2NRSTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Monterey, CA
Age: 27
Posts: 741
 


Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default

Thanks VSP. That's what you get when you have cars rolling into your driveway 5 at a time to get mods installed every day for the past 10 years.

@ CDubs: Yes, it is possible. What you're going to want to do is make sure you do a valve adjustment. Get the gap as tight as you can, but within spec. This will make sure there is no lag for your exhaust valves and they will open at the earliest possible moment. Then make sure you have a good exhaust header (mild steel or stainless, it doesn't matter). I suggest a 4-2-1 one-piece because the scavenging affect and the fact that there are no obstructions variations within the piping like a gaps caused by gaskets. Run a test pipe and a free flowing exhaust. What you're trying to do is get the exhaust gases out of the engine and to the end of the exhaust as quickly as possible.

My 95 hatch was able to shoot a single blue flame about 12" when quick-shifting at redline with:
AEM short ram intake
DC Sports Mild Steel Ceramic Coated 4-2-1 1-Piece Header
Test Pipe
Stock Exhaust Piping (Si)
Resonator Delete
Random Carbon Fiber Muffler
__________________
Feel free to visit TeamExile.Org to ask questions.
Or Email me directly to Tuner Steve
2NRSTV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2010, 05:31 AM   #12
1993hatch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Beaverton
Posts: 122
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)

Default .

i love you dude....i can only wish to be as educated on cars as u some day!!!
__________________
I'm not drivin to please anyone, just tryin to hit dat Vtec yo
1993hatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply




Bookmarks



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
massive backfire jerseyhonda Engine Tech / Drivetrain 5 07-15-2011 10:09 PM
d15b7 starts but backfire tenzo Tech Archive (No Posting) 3 07-06-2010 12:59 AM
Backfire...good or bad? jevsays Tech Archive (No Posting) 9 05-27-2008 07:56 PM
Backfire fix? loccusst Engine Tech / Drivetrain 9 05-06-2005 09:03 AM
GTI Backfire like crazy!!!!!!!!! WTF?! kawzhavok Engine Tech / Drivetrain 17 04-22-2005 09:33 AM

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vB.Sponsors
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.3 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 2007 ClubCivic.com
Best Prices on Aftermarket Car Performance Parts
Freelance Web Design

Store News:

Latest Topics:


Store Specials:

ALL
Unanswered Topics:





Copyright 2011 ClubCivic.com - ClubCivic.com is in no way affiliated with Honda Motor Company