ls non-v motor to vtec help

[Bennieboiy]

so i got a ls motor nd its ready for vtec
how do i install it
do i need a different head
extra parts lmk asap please
all opinions welcome help help help

[2slo4u]

Well you'd obviously need a vtec head. Either the b16 or b18(gsr) heads are the popular choice. But I think you have a lot more researching to do because these questions shouldn't be asked. But I'll answer them anyway because we all start somewhere. You'll need to piece together a vtec conversion kit. It usually includes an oil line, sandwich adapter, dowel pins, vtec timing belt(which ever head you use) and vtec head gasket. Id recommend that you upgrade other things as well since the motor is out. Arp head studs and arp rod bolts are HIGHLY recommended. You might as well get a new oil pump and water pump Do not cheap out on the build! If you do you'll soon be making a "I blew my ls-vtec motor" thread. People do not build the motor correct and then complain later that the motor is reliable. And don't forget this important important important part...get it tuned!!

[Bennieboiy]

well it already has new itr water pump itr new timing belt n itr new oil pump.
im going with the gsr head

[2slo4u]

then now you need the oil line, dowel pins, sandwich adapter, headgasket and find someone who knows how to install it if you dont know how

[Bennieboiy]

Originally Posted by 2slo4u

then now you need the oil line, dowel pins, sandwich adapter, headgasket and find someone who knows how to install it if you dont know how

so this is what i got a b18c head with mild port n polish with ge cams sticking with a ls dizzy for now skunk2 manifold arp head studs, n head gasket
kinda new to this whats the oil line, dowel pins n sandwhich adapter for?

[2slo4u]

have you already tried bolting up the distributor onto the head? mine didnt fit.
the oil line goes from sandwich adapter to a hole in the head..the dowel pins go on the block..dont really know what they are for but you need them..
arp rod bolts are really recommended too.
its good to have a mildly built head but its more important to have your block built too to withstand the pressure..

[Bennieboiy]

oh ok well now i got everything else i got oil lines n sandwhich adapter too .
the ls dizzy head is on one leg but the gsr has 3 usually cut one to fit thats wat i have done and seen before no difference from gsr dizzy to ls dizzy.

[2slo4u]

i've tried the ls distributor on a gsr head as well and had to cut as well..the non perfect fitment was noticeable during the tune so i recommend getting a gsr distibutor..sure it'll work but under tuning if the evidence is there that something is wrong..its not worth it..but its your choice..i just wouldnt cheap out on a ls-v build
honda should carry dowel pins if you didnt already get them

[Bennieboiy]

Alright i will do that i got everything so far now all i need is to build it btw would i need a different ecu or use the same one with a tune

[2slo4u]

im sure a p28 chipped will be good..i know that p28's are used for many ls-vtec builds..im tuned on apexi power fc so i can't help much on ecu's

[Bennieboiy]

those are expensive lol
so stock ecu wont work right

[2slo4u]

haha yes they are.but it pays to play
no stock ecu's wont work. atleast not your stock civic one

[Bennieboiy]

i know they do but i just want liil more hp nothing major n vtec people would throw opinions of building the block pistins and what not im not building it to race i just want it there after that maybe a turbo on it too,
o so a stock one wont but if a chipped it would it?

[Blood_Shot]

you need a chipped VTEC ecu with a map for your LS/Vtec. It will run like total garbage on your stock ecu. Do NOT rev that b**** like a gsr or b16 the LS bottom end is not built for that.

you should of just bought a golden eagle kit would save you ALOT of headaches

[Blood_Shot]

Originally Posted by careboy

Well you'd obviously need a vtec head. Either the b16 or b18(gsr) heads are the popular choice.

they arent the popular choice they are the only choice lol