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lucas29k
12-05-2009, 12:24 AM
alright so i have a d16y7 and want it faster. to me its pretty slow. i was looking into a turbo and based on everything ive seen im not going with a ebay turbo, maybe the intercooler and piping tho. but other than the turbo stuff will i need anything done to my stock setup? also i have a new rebuilt cylinder head. i read some places about getting high compression cylinders is this needed? i know i will need precision fuel injectors too. also if someone could give a link to turbo parts list since im gonna piece it all together if i do this. i went to fuel induction forum and the top thread with links to the stuff but they werent working? dunno if its just my computer or what. please dont flame for askin about this. just trying to get some help. and yes ive been researchin and still cant find parts list. also are the turbos hard to install?

mosaic_hardflip
12-05-2009, 12:43 AM
honestly if your dead set on being turbo single cam by all means dont let me stop you but if i were you instead i would just do a swap and then turbo later.....for the cost of a good turbo setup you can swap and be way more reliable...id say go b series

Esotericimage
12-05-2009, 01:45 AM
I say the opposite.. The D is a good platform to boost. the $$ you would spend for a B swap you can use to rebuild the D and then really make power. Go-Autoworks.com are running D's and walking people left and right.

Another guy on another forum has a built D pushing 18lbs and raping V-8's left and right.
http://www.go-autoworks-store.com/gostkit.html

http://articles.evans-tuning.com/2009/03/25/b-series-horsepower-to-part-charts/

Theres a good start.. you need to research alot.. turbo's arent plug and play.

Steven.
12-05-2009, 07:18 AM
atleast do a intake manifold swap...

cvcrcr99
12-05-2009, 11:34 AM
alright so i have a d16y7 and want it faster. to me its pretty slow. i was looking into a turbo and based on everything ive seen im not going with a ebay turbo, maybe the intercooler and piping tho. but other than the turbo stuff will i need anything done to my stock setup? also i have a new rebuilt cylinder head. i read some places about getting high compression cylinders is this needed? i know i will need precision fuel injectors too. also if someone could give a link to turbo parts list since im gonna piece it all together if i do this. i went to fuel induction forum and the top thread with links to the stuff but they werent working? dunno if its just my computer or what. please dont flame for askin about this. just trying to get some help. and yes ive been researchin and still cant find parts list. also are the turbos hard to install?

Where to start? You need to do ALOT of research. You need to have all the answers to these questions:
1. How much money do you have to spend on the kit?
2. How much hp are you looking for?
3. Will you be running a internally gated turbo, or externally gated turbo set-up?
4. Do you want to keep your P/S and A/C?

As for a parts list, this is a quick run down for what I would suggest:

Here is what you NEED...

1 -Turbo - T3 would be best for your set-up IMO. (name brand such as Garrett, turbonetics etc)
2 - Manifold - Do you want to keep A/C and P/S, or get rid of them?
3 - Intercooler - Ebay is fine
4 - Charge Piping - Ebay is fine
5 - Couplers and Clamps - Again, Ebay is fine
6 - Air Filter - Not 100% necessary, but I would suggest an AEM Dryflow, or a K&N
7 - Wastegate - I would stick with Tial unless the turbo is internally gated.
8 - Blow Off Valve - The thing that goes pfffft!, or whooosh! Check youtube for sound clips and see what you like best.
9 - Oil Line Kit w/ Fittings - I would go with Fast Turbo
10 - Tapped Oil Pan - Get a spare y7 oil pan and have that tapped, so you can keep your stock one just in case for later
11 - Injectors - The size depends on how much power you want/how much boost you're pushing, save yourself some time and a possible headache and get Low Impedance injectors.
12 - Downpipe w/ Flexpipe and High Flow Cat - 2.5'' or bigger, there are 4 bolt/5 bolt/v-band set ups. This is determined by the design of the turbo.
13 - Dumptube - Where does all the extra air that isn't used go? Out the dumptube.
14 - Vacuum Lines w/ Vacuum T Fittings
15 - Gauges - I would suggest boost, oil psi, and A/f at the least. I would also suggest electronic gauges that have warning set-ups (for the boost and oil psi) so if anything goes wrong or reads incorrectly, the gauges will beep at you.
16 - Gauge Pod - There's a bunch of different ways you can mount the gauges, pillar pod, gauge bezel pod, custom etc
17 - Chipped ECU w/ engine Management w/Tune - Chipped p28 is probably your best bet. I would suggest Hondata. But check with your tuner to see what they are most comfortable with.
18 - Synthetic Oil, Higher Octane Fuel - I would go with the highest octane fuel you can get in your area (around me it is 93) to avoid detonation as much as possible.
19 - Spark plugs (one step colder)
20 - Miscellaneous Stuff - Gaskets, wiring (for the gauges), trust me, the little thing add up quick

Things you may WANT:

21 - Vacuum Manifold - Just a block which all the vacuum ports plug into. Cleans up an engine bay nicely.
22 - Catch Can - "Catches" all the oil vapors that are in the recirculating air.
23 - Boost Controller - Your wastegate has a spring in it, say it is a 7lb spring..it takes 7lbs of air to push that wastegate spring (thus allowing all the extra air out the dumptube). Boost controller can allow you to raise the amount of boost, but not lower it.
24 - Aftermarket Radiator - Dual Care Aluminum Mishimoto FTW.
25 - Turbo Timer - When you drive you car, you want to let the car idle once you are about to turn it off to circulate all the scorching hot oil out of the turbo (otherwise, say good bye to your oil seals within the turbo) You can either sit in the car and wait 45 seconds to a minute, or install a turbo timer, set it to 1 minute and the car will stay on after you take the keys out. It'll shut off once the timer is done.
26 - Oil Sandwich Adapter - Makes setting up a oil psi gauge 100x easier.
27 - Oil Restrictor - Restricts oil, so your turbo doesn't become flooded. If it does become flooded, good bye oil seals.
28 - Intake manifold - The set -up you have on your y7 is not the best. At the least, try and score a IM/TB set-up off a y8.
29 - Motor Build - pretty general, but you can always look into a camshaft, cam gear, upgraded valve train, low comp. pistons (not high comp.), better piston rods, ARP rod bolts, knife edge crank (the list can go on and on)

Yes, it is ALOT of information. Yes, it is decent amount of money to invest. Just research your a$$ off, all of it will eventually make sense. Also, there are a bunch of how to's and parts list for turbo kits. Try not to generalize the search too much by searching "Civic d16y7 turbo kit parts list", maybe something like "'turbo parts list". I hope this was helpful.

gtoman_05
12-05-2009, 11:37 AM
I was just like you a year ago. And then i found out no matter what you do with a d16 its just a waste, unless you have a lot of money on the side for maintenance. Save up for a new motor is my tip.

ej_EXtasy
12-05-2009, 12:05 PM
These questions are a weekly thing. Go search in the forced induction threads. Turbo D > B swap, everytime.

lucas29k
12-05-2009, 01:05 PM
is was hoping to get 250 or more horsepower out of a turbo..is that realistic for a d16?

the reason i wann turbo instead of doing a swap is because i wanna know how to do the turbo and learn about it by installing it and i think it would be alot more fun then just swapping out engines and also i make about 600 dollars a month so i would by piece by piece until i had everything. and i was looking at doing a swap and its alot of money to do. i know a turbo is too but i can piece it together time by time.
i was looking into external turbo and i wanna keep my a/c

also thanks for all the help and not just flaming like i figured atleast someone would do lol

this is not gonna be just me buying everything at one time tomorrow or anything like that.
im just getting a good layed out plan of what im doing and what ill need before i start buying parts

cvcrcr99
12-05-2009, 02:36 PM
Yea, just save and buy piece by piece. I believe 250 whp is do-able with a d16. But as I have said, it'll be costly and problematic if you don't do it the right way and cheap out and take short cuts. I also forgot to mention earlier that you would need a better clutch as well.

If you want to keep your A/c, I would check into log manifolds. They are usually A/c and P/s compatible.

lucas29k
12-05-2009, 02:59 PM
alright so ive been looking all over for turbos this morning. what is a good turbo t3, t4 or t3/t4, or gt35? also whats the price ranges, obviously i wont be getting a garret or anything like that since thier like 1000.
if u have time check out this website i would and give me some opions. dont no if its legit but there are turbos on there pretty cheap and some a brand name

http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1489


also i was looking at intercooler with piping on ebay. there is 2.5 and 3" the 3" was a little more, im guessing its better to go with 3" ? correct me if im wrong

got traction
12-05-2009, 03:00 PM
honestly if your dead set on being turbo single cam by all means dont let me stop you but if i were you instead i would just do a swap and then turbo later.....for the cost of a good turbo setup you can swap and be way more reliable...id say go b series

not true

These questions are a weekly thing. Go search in the forced induction threads. Turbo D > B swap, everytime.

i agree to a point

got traction
12-05-2009, 03:01 PM
OP - ssautocrome is one of the companys you want to stay away from.

cvcrcr99
12-05-2009, 03:04 PM
ssautochrome is a crap ebay brand IMO.

I would stick with a t3 or a t3/t4. Maybe something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Garrett-T3-turbo-charger_W0QQitemZ140364175894QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMo tors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item20ae5b5a 16

For IC piping, I would recommend 2 1/4'' on the hot side, and 2.5" on the cold side.

lucas29k
12-05-2009, 10:01 PM
ok so should i just try to get a used turbo then? cuz there probably isnt any good new ones for less than 800 is there?

lucas29k
12-06-2009, 12:19 AM
also was wondering if anyone knew any good tutorials on how to install a complete turbo kit. im not saying go find one for me but if u know of one or have one saved somewhere please give a link. ive looked for a while and only found one:
http://www.maxrev.de/complete-guide-for-drag-3-turbo-installation-t488.htm

id rather have more than one with pics incase one forgot something.
also i was looking at the wastegates....which one should i get in tial. 35mm,38mm, so on and what size fuel injectors. i noticed there are alot of different cc's. which tial wastegate and injectors would be good for a t3/t4 turbo setup

Autoworks
12-06-2009, 09:54 AM
...will i need anything done to my stock setup? also i have a new rebuilt cylinder head. i read some places about getting high compression cylinders is this needed? i know i will need precision fuel injectors too. also if someone could give a link to turbo parts list since im gonna piece it all together if i do this. i went to fuel induction forum and the top thread with links to the stuff but they werent working? dunno if its just my computer or what. please dont flame for askin about this. just trying to get some help. and yes ive been researchin and still cant find parts list. also are the turbos hard to install?

If your on a bufget here, a few things I would look for would be...

-Stock Y8 Intake manifold to replace the Y7 manifold
-You can save $ and go with a set of DSM injectors, just add in a resistor box
- You can source a good used turbo, I'd stay awa from the "ebay parts"

Research before you buy. Do it right the first time. Its VERY important that you get the fuel management/tuning situated before hand. Get w/ the tuners in your area. Find out rates and what they recommend you use

lucas29k
12-06-2009, 12:59 PM
ya i plan on getting the y8 intake cuz ive read about that too, can u explain more aobut dsm injectors with resistor box? also what do you mean by getting fuel and tunning situated? i just got my car tuned about 2 weeks ago after installing new cylinder head. and the only parts i plan on getting off ebay are intercooler and piping. and maybe other stuff if it is a good brand and good price and the guy has good feedback.

cvcrcr99
12-06-2009, 01:04 PM
can u explain more aobut dsm injectors with resistor box?

Search and you'll find alot of info. on it

also what do you mean by getting fuel and tunning situated? i just got my car tuned about 2 weeks ago after installing new cylinder head.

He means what he said. Find a tuner in your area and see if you can talk with him about what program he is most comfortable using. ( I have already mentioned this in a previous post in this thread.) What do you mean you got your car "tuned" when installing a new head? Do you have the stock ecu for a y7? Again, research about fuel maps, ignition timing, and find a tuner in your area and check his prices before you jump into anything. Tuning is expensive.