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Jay Jay
08-03-2003, 09:58 AM
Differences in Body and Interior

Exterior

96-98

Front Bumper (different sized lower grill and no brake ducts, a.k.a. "side vents")
Front headlights (less aerodynamic and blinkers have a "foggy glass cover" and an amber reflector strip and an amber covering for the blinker bulb inside the housing)
Front Upper Grill (smaller in both length and width)
Hood and Fenders (where they meet the front bumper and headlights, they are differently sized)
Tailights (the blinker and a small portion of the inner tail lights near the reverse lights have amber covering)
Rear Bumper (the lower lip of the rear bumper curves underneath the car)

99-00

Front Bumper (different sized lower grill and brake ducts capable of holding OEM foglights)
Front Headlights (more aerodynamic and have orange blinker bulbs with no amber covering and no amber reflector strip, but have a small amber reflector in the inner chrome wall of the blinker)
Front Upper Grill (larger in length and width)
Hood and Fenders (where they meet the front bumper and headlights, they are differently sized)
Taillights (the complete bottom half the light is whited out)
Rear Bumper (the lower lip of the rear bumper curves in then outward a tiny bit from the car)

Interior

96-98

Radio/A/C/Heat Controls (the knobs used to control the temperature of the interior of the car are all located beneath the radio and the CD attachment for the radio is located directly in front of the cupholders in front of the transmission knob)

■ keyless entry is managed by factory head unit

99-00

Radio/A/C/Heat Controls (the knobs used to control the temperature of the interior of teh car are located BOTH to the left and below the radio and the CD attachment for the radio is located in the head unit leaving a storage space directly in front of the cupholders in front of the transmission knob)

■ keyless entry is a part of it's own system
■ Dome light comes on when you remove the key, whereas in the 96-98, it doesn't..
■ Map lights above rear view mirror where the 96-98 does not..
■ Corner lights blink with keyless entry..


Originally posted by Hesus
the differences

96-98
http://www.bmwpower.lv/members/hesus/8e8ae8afacelift2.jpg

99-00
http://www.bmwpower.lv/members/hesus/cbb1928facelift.jpg

If you know something else that is not listed, please post it.

99SilverCX
10-20-2005, 04:26 PM
gota question for you guys

will my 99 CX hatchback sideskirts fit on a coupe or si??

SierraSonic
10-21-2005, 12:33 AM
I have a question/statement, Jackson racings says that theres a difference between the heads in those years.

99hatchie
10-23-2005, 06:22 PM
Yeah When I bought my hatch I didn't know there were differrences but I like the 99's better so I got lucky my car is a 99. Hey do you guys know where I can find a decent price on the Original Civic Type-r Spoiler.

NewEraImports09
10-23-2005, 06:44 PM
any reason why may i ask, just curious because they can be very expensiveive seen some like on jdm land that go for several hundred, when u can get a replica for about 100-200 depending on where u look

streetstyle
10-28-2005, 01:46 AM
the 99-2000 is alittle bit longer and wider.than the 96-98

mlassek
10-30-2005, 09:59 PM
99-00 are a little heavier

curb weight
MT/AT 96-98 hb:
2238/2304
99-00 hb:
2359/2423
96-98 coupe:
2271/2337
99-00 coupe:
2359/2405
96-98 sedan:
2319/2370
99-00sedan:
2339/2388
96-98 hb:
2253/2319
99-00 hb:
2388/2434
96-98 sedan:
2387/2438
99-00 sedan:
2410/2456 96-98:
2324/2399
99-00:
2370/2445 96-00 coupe:
2460/2496
99-00 coupe:
2513/2560
96-98 sedan:
2518/2568
99-00 sedan:
2513/2562

99-00 coupe:
2612/NA

NOFX
10-30-2005, 10:08 PM
We know that part. In fact that's all in the site specs at the top of the page. Jay Jay is the site admin too... you know, he owns the site. ;)

I think Jay Jay was trying to post ways you can tell them apart easily. Most people don't weigh cars to figure out the year or trim.

Matt.
12-10-2005, 05:33 PM
will a 99-00 head unit fit a 96-98?

NOFX
12-10-2005, 06:07 PM
^^^ Though this thread is about the differences between the two ends of the generation, I don't think it's relevant enough to be posted here PLUS it encourages posting off topic. I'd advise to post a thread in electronics. They shouldn't fit though. I'm not really sure where in the car you want it to fit though. Go post in electronics.

Matt.
12-10-2005, 06:41 PM
It does pertain to this topic, cause the topic is about the differences.

SOHCvegasman
01-12-2006, 10:43 PM
I have been ebaying and looking for headers for my HX i understand that it is a vtec E and all that but what i dont understand is that some headers are for EX only or Non vtec only... where would my HX fit in?

itsmycookie
01-13-2006, 01:59 AM
I have been ebaying and looking for headers for my HX i understand that it is a vtec E and all that but what i dont understand is that some headers are for EX only or Non vtec only... where would my HX fit in?this really isn;t the thread for this but if your exhaust manifold and catalitic converter are combined then a non vtec will fit, but if they are seperate pieces the ex header will fit

outaurleague
02-22-2006, 02:02 PM
What year did the civic go from OBD1 - to OBD2 - Thanks

aemkitfox
02-26-2006, 09:57 AM
What year did the civic go from OBD1 - to OBD2 - Thanks
96 was the first year of On Board Diagnostics Generation 2, not just on civics all cars met that requirement in 96, thats why they ask what year your car is when you go to get your emissions done. 96 and up dont have to roll on the dyno.

xcutedpguy
02-26-2006, 10:10 AM
Question: will a 99 front bumper fit on a 98 civic ex and is it an easy bolt on?????

Matt.
02-26-2006, 10:13 AM
Question: will a 99 front bumper fit on a 98 civic ex and is it an easy bolt on?????

Yes

xcutedpguy
02-26-2006, 10:16 AM
so basically all i have to do is purchase a 99 bumper and it bolts right on???????

Civicpmp
02-26-2006, 03:09 PM
I wish I would know this before I got my body work done. I thought they were the same.

itsmycookie
02-26-2006, 03:18 PM
Question: will a 99 front bumper fit on a 98 civic ex and is it an easy bolt on?????no the whole fronts are different it won;t line up unless you do a full front end conversion
Yeswrong. it won;t bolt right up as stated ^^ above by jay jay

xcutedpguy
02-26-2006, 04:04 PM
Thats what i thought lol well thanks i was just about to order the bumper haha

Matt.
02-26-2006, 04:12 PM
no the whole fronts are different it won;t line up unless you do a full front end conversion
wrong. it won;t bolt right up as stated ^^ above by jay jay

oops... I missed read it. I thought as in doing a front end conversion. But with the stock fenders and head lights and such it won't work.

MattBlackEK
02-28-2006, 05:07 PM
What year did the civic go from OBD1 - to OBD2 - Thanks

1995 obd1 1996 obd2

NOFX
03-01-2006, 03:04 AM
so basically all i have to do is purchase a 99 bumper and it bolts right on???????
No. In order for it to fit you definately need the bumper, grill, headlights, hood, and fenders. It is debatable of whether or not you need the core support, but I believe you do after seeing so many cuts in the top of the bumper of '99-'00 bumpers on '96-'98 bodies.

Another difference is the ignitions are different part numbers. A lot of the electronic parts are difference parts numbers too. The entire heating and air conditioning system is pretty much different, including the heater core. So yes, if you want to swap out your '96-'98 climate control for the '99-'00 climate control with the big round knobs, you need to pull the dash and redo EVERYTHING.

My advice is be wary when buying parts for your car if they're from the other end of the spectrum unless you KNOW that they are the same part number.

aemkitfox
03-02-2006, 01:39 AM
my feelings are, if someone wants a 99 bad enough, just get one instead of spending more money to end up with factory parts

NOFX
03-02-2006, 04:32 AM
my feelings are, if someone wants a 99 bad enough, just get one instead of spending more money to end up with factory parts
:werd: Much cheaper too. And less of a pain in the ass.

CiVIcCFAsST
03-04-2006, 11:01 PM
this helps a lot

DAF
03-09-2006, 02:37 PM
I don't think anyone has said this yet, but it can help. The distributors of all the 96-00 are the same exsept for the 99-00 ex. Its plug is diffrent, its a 8 pin and the other one is a 10 ping with a dead plug. If you get the 99 ex distributor, it is easy to convert it over, its just a ghetto rig job.

You will need the plug from your car, match it up exactly how the other one is layed out. Only one that won't line up is the black/yellow wire. They match to each other. Then you take a wire from inside the old distributor from a the side of a small sensor facing the internal coil. It looks like a cpu to be honest.

How you run that wire is up to you. The only real diffrence is that one wire. Its blue on the outside and greenish on the inside. If you accually have to do this, you can email me and I can give more detail. It is fairly easy.

yblegal
04-05-2006, 10:47 AM
Yeah When I bought my hatch I didn't know there were differrences but I like the 99's better so I got lucky my car is a 99. Hey do you guys know where I can find a decent price on the Original Civic Type-r Spoiler.

If you find a place to find a spoiler let me know i'd like to buy one for my si.

BlackHopeDC5
04-05-2006, 11:01 AM
If you find a place to find a spoiler let me know i'd like to buy one for my si.

now if you have a 99-00 si then your car probally has the type r spoiler already on it :) if not, then just look for an si spoiler cause they are the same.

civicstar98
05-27-2006, 02:39 PM
i have seen the differences first hand. so i thought i would ask you my problem is i am having a lil trouble with my 99 front end conversion on my 98 civic. the new 99 civic bumber is just not going in to place and i heard you had to cut something but i don't know what it is. the fenders where direct bolt on just like the lights and hood but the bumpers is fighting me

anfrey
05-27-2006, 02:59 PM
i can't remember if this was mentioned, but the 96-98 d16y8s are open head casting, whil ethe 99-00 d16y8s are closed head casting

NOFX
05-27-2006, 04:09 PM
i have seen the differences first hand. so i thought i would ask you my problem is i am having a lil trouble with my 99 front end conversion on my 98 civic. the new 99 civic bumber is just not going in to place and i heard you had to cut something but i don't know what it is. the fenders where direct bolt on just like the lights and hood but the bumpers is fighting me
I've been telling people before that you have to modify the bumper (the metal part that is on your car, NOT the bumper cover you've gotten new!) and the core support on the '96-'98s to fit the '99-'00 front end on. I've met with people telling me I'm wrong because they sell '99-'00 front ends and there is no modification needed.

On the other hand... I've actually SEEN where people have had to modify the bumper and the core support to fit the bumper cover on.

HA FREAKING HA. I fucking said it had to be done, and this guy shows that it needed to. I've seen some piss-poor conversions where it looks like people just put the wrong front end on and you end up with gaps in the corners. Sure, this one isn't lined up perfectly, but it's a lot better than a certain hatchback I saw with the same conversion done that has about a quarter of an inch of gap in his corners as though his front bumper is sagging. Just looks like his headlights don't fit perfectly on this one in the link (that's just a matter of resetting the headlights).
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=59851

Sorry... just really aggrivating to hear people tell me it's just bolt on when I've only seen how tos and photos show with the modification.

I imagine the car I was talking about that has this conversion didn't modify the bumper support or core support and that's why it has fitment issues.

civicstar98
05-29-2006, 01:35 AM
sick it is good to know that the problem is not with the car. do you have pictures that show the cuts i need to make on the core support to make it fit correctly.

NOFX
05-29-2006, 01:48 AM
sick it is good to know that the problem is not with the car. do you have pictures that show the cuts i need to make on the core support to make it fit correctly.
Click the link in my last post. It has photos of the entire process of the conversion.

o0kuam0o
06-29-2006, 06:32 PM
So I just bought a 2000 y8 head that i am gonna put on my 98 y7 block. I figured out that the INTAKE MANIFOLDS are different between the 96-98 EX and the 99-00 EX. The 99-00 has the IACV built into the throttle body, and the 96-98 has the IACV attached to the back of the manifold. This creates a problem, because I am using a 96-98 EX ecu and it looks for the 2 wire IACV that goes on the back of the manifold, but all I have is the 3 wire IACV that is attached to the throttle body.

schutzracing
06-30-2006, 04:57 PM
u missed something on the interior.. the rear upper and lower panels are way different.. i know first hand..

NOFX
07-01-2006, 12:16 AM
u missed something on the interior.. the rear upper and lower panels are way different.. i know first hand..
This is where you would tell us HOW they are different. ;)

Mahlmann
07-01-2006, 01:37 PM
2 questions: are the 99-00 si side skirts any different than the stock ones and will si side skirts fit a 97 coupe?

NOFX
07-01-2006, 03:34 PM
2 questions: are the 99-00 si side skirts any different than the stock ones and will si side skirts fit a 97 coupe?They fit. I have Si skirts on my '98 coupe.

Mahlmann
07-01-2006, 08:53 PM
They fit. I have Si skirts on my '98 coupe.

cool, thanks... are they any different? or exactly the same shape/design?

NOFX
07-01-2006, 09:33 PM
cool, thanks... are they any different? or exactly the same shape/design?
Exactly the same. It'd eb better to make your own thread next time.

Mahlmann
07-02-2006, 01:37 AM
Exactly the same. It'd eb better to make your own thread next time.

cool, thanks for the responces... i didn't make a thread because i knew i would only get like 2 responces and dindn't want to waste thread space

lsported
07-27-2006, 05:13 AM
Are there any differences in the taillight wiring harnesses? I own a 1998 Civic Ex Coupe. I recently bought some 99-00 taillights and put them on. However, the taillights on the trunk portion have to bulb sockets but the wiring harness has only 1 bulb. So basically when I turn on the headlights and step on teh brake, on the taillights on the corners light up and not the ones on the trunk, hence the missing bulb. I don't remember changing the wiring harness or not when I installed the Euros but that might've been the problem. The taillights on the corners are fine. I had Eurolights on there before but I prefer the more clean look now so I decided to get the 99-00 tails. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks!

NOFX
07-27-2006, 06:28 AM
If I remember correctly the wiring harnesses are different between the '96-'98 coupe taillights and the '99-'00 coupe taillights.

I inherited half (the inners) of a set of euro lights on a trunk I bought and it is missing sockets too, so that might be the problem.

I'd go check the extra set of '96-'98 taillights I uesd to have, but Zeller Automotive effictively stole them from me. :D

civydcex04
08-25-2006, 09:39 AM
I think the headlights look different but are the same size and 96-00 all fiit each other!! I got my boys 99 headlights and they fit my 97 fine!!!! Bumper will not fit and that is for sure, I tried and it didnt look or fit right!!!

1337 | RCE
08-25-2006, 03:05 PM
I think the headlights look different but are the same size and 96-00 all fiit each other!! I got my boys 99 headlights and they fit my 97 fine!!!! Bumper will not fit and that is for sure, I tried and it didnt look or fit right!!!
picture please?

NOFX
08-25-2006, 05:05 PM
I think the headlights look different but are the same size and 96-00 all fiit each other!! I got my boys 99 headlights and they fit my 97 fine!!!! Bumper will not fit and that is for sure, I tried and it didnt look or fit right!!!
Yeah, I've seen the bumpers interchanged between the wrong year cars and it never fit right. They're about the samne size, but it doesn't look right.

lsported
09-24-2006, 03:08 PM
does anyone have the part number to the tail light wiring harness? I'm having a bit of trouble with that.

NOFX
09-24-2006, 03:55 PM
I posted the part numbers to all four harnesses ('98 coupe inner and outter harneses and '99 coupe inner and outter harnesses) in your other thread. Hope that helps.

RiceOne
09-25-2006, 04:46 PM
no the whole fronts are different it won;t line up unless you do a full front end conversion
wrong. it won;t bolt right up as stated ^^ above by jay jay


96-98 and 99-00 Civics will not bolt up. You will have to do whole front end swap. It will not line up.:lol:

NOFX
09-25-2006, 05:04 PM
Um... repeating that why?

turbod16phase
01-17-2007, 10:24 PM
does anyone have the part number to the tail light wiring harness? I'm having a bit of trouble with that.

What trouble ? i think same harness using tail lights.

NOFX
01-17-2007, 11:07 PM
What trouble ? i think same harness using tail lights.
No they don't. I posted part numbers earlier.

VTi_ME
01-19-2007, 05:53 AM
OKiz
What about the rear 96-98 rear bumper to the civics of 99-00? Direct fittment?

NOFX
01-19-2007, 07:51 AM
OKiz
What about the rear 96-98 rear bumper to the civics of 99-00? Direct fittment?
Yes.

All '96-'00 COUPE REAR BUMPERS will fit all '96-'00 COUPES and SEDANS.

All '96-'00 SEDAN REAR BUMPERS will fit all '96-'00 SEDANS and COUPES.

All '96-'00 HATCH REAR BUMPERS will fit all '96-'00 HATCHES.

The only difference is the '99-'00 rear bumpers have a slight lip that juts out at the bottom of the bumper. The '96-'98 rear bumpers do not have this trait.

jdm97ek4
01-25-2007, 07:54 PM
you guys r idiots. 96-98 front end is diff from 99-00. headlights,grille,bumper and hood.

NOFX
01-25-2007, 08:13 PM
you guys r idiots. 96-98 front end is diff from 99-00. headlights,grille,bumper and hood.
And core support.

I'm pretty sure we went over this long long long ago, many many many times.

We were talking about REAR bumpers.

FRONTS are completely different from the years ('96-'98 compared to '99-'00).

REARS are interechangeble between the years like I said before.

You sir, are the idiot. Learn to read.

Btw, you don't own an EK and it's certainly not an EK4. You own an EJ6, just liek every other '96-'00 Civic hatch made for the USDM market.

schutzracing
01-28-2007, 07:08 PM
i didnt see this in here it might have been.. but the rear panels (on each side of the seat) is different..

NOFX
01-28-2007, 07:19 PM
i didnt see this in here it might have been.. but the rear panels (on each side of the seat) is different..
Rear panels? Which body style(s)?

Sedans have cushions on either side of it's rear seat, a sort of extension of the seat. Hatches and coupes have plastic panels that make up the sides of the car's interior.

Also, explain how they're different please.

Jordanek4
01-29-2007, 08:11 AM
And core support.

core support is not necesarely needed, but if you do, than it will be bolt on, otherwise see my version of the howto:
Frontconversion Civic 96-98 to 99-00

What's needed:
- 99-00 hood
- 99-00 headlight units
- 99-00 front side fenders
- 99-00 grille
- 99-00 front bumper

For the people who try to use 99-00 bumper only... ITS NOT GONNA WORK. YOU NEED ALL FRONT PARTS. I made the following pic just to let those guys see the fitment difference with a 96-98 fender and a 99-00 frontbumper. Picture says it all!!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/komurot/Conversion%20EK4/DSC02995.jpg

Well, lets start the frontconversion when you have all parts as listed above.

1. Unbolt the 96-98 parts in following order: frontbumper & grille --> headlights --> fenders --> hood
2. Bolt on the 99-00 parts: hood --> fenders --> headlights
3. the grille is mounted on your bumper and you have to use the upper holes on your grille to

hold up your bumper and grille (in my case)

the frontbumper is the only fitment issue

see these pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/komurot/Conversion%20EK4/DSC02992.jpg

you have to cut/dremel a small piece of the bumper
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/komurot/Conversion%20EK4/DSC03003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/komurot/Conversion%20EK4/DSC03004.jpg

then you can slip the bumper right in its place
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/komurot/Conversion%20EK4/DSC03007.jpg
unfortunately the holes are differents so you cant bolt these up! As i described above you

have to use your grille which is mounted on your bumper and use the upper holes on your

grille to hold up your bumper and grille (in my case)

Thats pretty much it.
It took me 5,5 hours to do on the street hahahhaha thanks to some friends who helped me out!!!! As a first timer, i think 5,5 hours is ok, but if i do it once more, it could be done in only 1,5 hours i think!
This is the endresult

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/komurot/Conversion%20EK4/DSC03017.jpg

Hope you can use this information to do your own conversion.

Greets,
Jordan

NOFX
01-29-2007, 08:14 AM
Yeah, I know it's not needed but I've never seen ont line up right without it.

I want to keep my '98 front though.

Anyway, you should have make that a new thread. ;) This thread is for listing differences between the two ends of the generation, not how to convert one to the other.

Jordanek4
01-29-2007, 08:22 AM
my mistake.. i will make a new topic :cool:

NOFX
01-29-2007, 08:40 AM
my mistake.. i will make a new topic :cool:
I reported it so the mods can move it to make a new thread so there won't be a double post. :)

corbsc-westcvc
01-29-2007, 02:39 PM
heres a thought.... can u do a 96-98 front end conversion on a 99-00 civic. this for all those that love the 96-98 fronts like me. and would all u need is the hood, fenders, bumper, grill and headlights?

NOFX
01-29-2007, 06:51 PM
heres a thought.... can u do a 96-98 front end conversion on a 99-00 civic. this for all those that love the 96-98 fronts like me. and would all u need is the hood, fenders, bumper, grill and headlights?
Of course. I'd still recommend a replacement core support though if you want it to look like it's supposed to be there.

iCivic
01-29-2007, 09:08 PM
99-00 front end conversion FTW!!! =)

NOFX
01-29-2007, 09:14 PM
96-98 stock from end ftw.

Hmm... this makes me want to get a wrecked '99-'00 and do a '96-'98 front end conversion. Seriously... in this area, if I had an Si, I'd do it.

NOFX
01-30-2007, 07:02 AM
i didnt see this in here it might have been.. but the rear panels (on each side of the seat) is different..
Rear panels? Which body style(s)?

Sedans have cushions on either side of it's rear seat, a sort of extension of the seat. Hatches and coupes have plastic panels that make up the sides of the car's interior.

Also, explain how they're different please.
???

iCivic
01-30-2007, 09:43 PM
99-00 front end ftw.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

NOFX
01-30-2007, 10:35 PM
I agree, those '99-'00 front ends aren't as great as they're hyped up to be. Especially conversions.

But you want to know what's silly? Misquoting people on purpose.
:thumbs up

iCivic
01-30-2007, 10:51 PM
:thumbs up
lol cry baby j/p, deep down i know you love the 99-00 conversion :lol:

NOFX
01-30-2007, 10:56 PM
lol cry baby j/p, deep down i know you love the 99-00 conversion :lol:
Nope. I loathe the conversion. Buying a car with that front end (because it's a '99-'00) is just fine. But the conversions end up looking bad too much of the time imo anyway. Not to mention you're trying that hard to make it look just like another stock USDM Civic. If I were to swap my front end my mom wouldn't even be able to tell the difference. At least she can tell, "Oh, your wheels are a different color". :lol:

corbsc-westcvc
01-31-2007, 03:32 AM
hell im prolly going to get a em1 in the next few months and i have a 97 now. all id want different is some 96-98 Sir headlights and oem fogs. ill aquire those and then see how it would look on an em1 fitment wise. hell yea im doing it for sure 1st person

{EK9}Eddie
02-15-2007, 10:31 PM
how do I change the back drums to rotors?

Jeremy Johnston
02-22-2007, 05:44 PM
i have a 96 with a 99 dash harness how do I jump from a 96 dx motor harness to the 99 dash harness

NOFX
02-22-2007, 07:38 PM
For those of you with specific questions, you will get more and better results if you MAKE A NEW THREAD.

It would really increase you odds of getting helped.
hell im prolly going to get a em1 in the next few months and i have a 97 now. all id want different is some 96-98 Sir headlights and oem fogs. ill aquire those and then see how it would look on an em1 fitment wise. hell yea im doing it for sure 1st person
Do you mean '99-'00 SiR headlights and OEM foglights? No, you won't be the first. Or do you mean '96-'98 SiR headlights (with front end conversion) and OEM fogs? If that's what you mean, I know a guy who did an SiR front end conversion, and the SiR rear bumper onto a '99-'00 coupe.

His car went from this:
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/145/white09li8.jpg

To this:
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2537/hinseattle016cr3.jpg

NOFX
03-03-2007, 06:13 PM
Please take note that both burgundy cars posted in the first post are European cars. So the '96-'98 headlights aren't the same as the USDM ones, and the '99-'00 grill is not the same as a USDM grill.

jonneyboy25
03-03-2007, 06:26 PM
the core support is the same on 96-00

Going-West
03-03-2007, 06:31 PM
96-98 stock from end ftw.

Hmm... this makes me want to get a wrecked '99-'00 and do a '96-'98 front end conversion. Seriously... in this area, if I had an Si, I'd do it.

That would be kind of sweet actually, 99-00 si with a 96-98 front on it. It would certainly decrease the chances of it being stolen since people would just think it was an ex or dx or whatever. And it would still have the b16 engine/tranny so you could still make the world spin off it's axis and wrinkle the pavement and stuff...

NOFX
03-03-2007, 07:09 PM
the core support is the same on 96-00
Not close enough.

1996 2DR DX - BULKHEAD, FR. - 60400-S01-A00ZZ
1997 2DR DX - BULKHEAD, FR. - 60400-S01-305ZZ
1998 2DR DX - BULKHEAD, FR. - 60400-S01-305ZZ
1999 2DR DX - BULKHEAD, FR. - 60400-S01-A02ZZ
2000 2DR DX - BULKHEAD, FR. - 60400-S01-A02ZZ

If you do not swap out the core support when doing a '99-'00 front end conversion on a '96-'98, you will have to either hammer in the corners of the bumper rebar or cut slots in the top of the bumper (these will be hidden when the hood is closed).

Jmoto911
03-03-2007, 09:10 PM
Good info. ;) ;) ;) ;)

jonneyboy25
03-04-2007, 06:03 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-RADIATOR-CORE-SUPPORT-96-97-98-99-00-HONDA-CIVIC_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33645QQihZ014QQit emZ330092426691QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

this is what im talking about that is the same you guys are talking about the bumper bar

NOFX
03-04-2007, 03:10 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-RADIATOR-CORE-SUPPORT-96-97-98-99-00-HONDA-CIVIC_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33645QQihZ014QQit emZ330092426691QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

this is what im talking about that is the same you guys are talking about the bumper bar
No, I'm talking about the core support. The part that has to be cut out and welded (and bolted) back in to replace. If you don't change the core support for a front end conversion, it is likely you will need to modify it.

The part numbers I gave you are the front bulkhead, aka core support part number.

This is the entire part (number 9, everything in the image):

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1224/bulkheadqt1.jpg

brios86
10-08-2008, 08:28 PM
im pretty new here an to my honda civic i have a 96 EX and im liking some of the 99 civic looks.. im wondering what can i change on my 96 to make it look like the 99 that are quite simply??? thankz (would ib be better if i just go get a 99?)

NOFX
10-08-2008, 10:01 PM
im pretty new here an to my honda civic i have a 96 EX and im liking some of the 99 civic looks.. im wondering what can i change on my 96 to make it look like the 99 that are quite simply??? thankz (would ib be better if i just go get a 99?)
Headlights
Front Bumper
Fenders
Hood
Grille
Core Support (replace, hammer, or cut the bumper)
Fender Stiffners (behind headlights - help line things up I hear)

chadi
10-09-2008, 01:38 PM
to add to what NOFX said...the front end must be done as a whole, you cannot just get the bumper, or grill...it has to be swapped as a whole conversion, it is quit simple, go look it up, there are how to's on here..

and you could swap out the taillights, direct fit, and the rear bumper, direct fit

layinghammers
12-02-2008, 10:29 AM
so will a 96-98 front bumper fit on a 99-00, the only reason im asking is cuz i like the square foggies way better than the 99-00 round ones.

chadi
12-02-2008, 10:34 AM
as i stated above...the conversion, will have to be done as a whole...if you have a 99-00 and you want the 96-98 look, you will have to change the whole front end...same goes the other way

SlowTEC
12-02-2008, 12:47 PM
Does no one read anymore?

Solid_Snake
12-02-2008, 01:58 PM
96-98 have "Unleaded fuel only" written on the gauge cluster whereas 99-00 dont have it

relativexistanc
01-29-2009, 11:50 AM
wow great thread guys extremely helpful! Jordanek4 thanks a ton man that pic with the bumper and the fenders is saving me a ton of heartache right now of trying to fit things that wont line up right!

ej8arm
05-05-2009, 08:39 PM
not sure about this one, but ive noticed that 99-00 sedans dont have antennas. not sure can i get someone back me up on this one?

NOFX
05-09-2009, 03:47 AM
'99-'00 USDM Civic sedans don't have extendable manual antennas on their driver's a pillar except for the GX.

ej8arm
06-09-2009, 02:59 AM
^^ thanks bro

tnk
06-09-2009, 03:35 AM
thats a chick!

ej8arm
06-09-2009, 02:39 PM
my bad, thanks girl!

Pekkle
08-31-2009, 03:43 AM
The map light above the rear view mirror should be on 96-98 EX models.

NOFX
08-31-2009, 04:16 AM
The map light above the rear view mirror should be on 96-98 EX models.
The map light is '98-'00 Civic EX and Si only in the US. '96-'97 didn't come with them.

Pekkle
08-31-2009, 01:13 PM
Really? That's odd. Learn something new everyday.

Wilshire001
10-30-2009, 10:15 PM
Does anyone have any pictures comparing all the differences on both cars (96-98 compared to 99-00)?

NOFX
10-30-2009, 10:28 PM
Does anyone have any pictures comparing all the differences on both cars (96-98 compared to 99-00)?
No.

Exactly what sort of differences are you looking for? Exterior cosmetic, interior cosmetic, wiring, etc?

NOFX
10-30-2009, 11:48 PM
Okay, so I went through this thread and tried to add all the model changes by year. I also added some other things I saw that were missing. I focused on USDM Civics, but some listings might cover some or all other '96-'00 Civics in the world.

Here's another helpful thread I made that goes over US trim differences.
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2055230

1996
GENERAL
- First year of new generation.
- US coupes assembled in the United States.
- US Hatches assembled in Canada.
- US Sedans assembled in the United States and Canada.

COLORS
- Most colors are new to this model.

CHASSIS
- Suspension set up changes to a less Intergra-styled one.

ENGINE
- Various changes in general from previous generation.

EXTERIOR
- Body made larger and heavier overall than previous generation.

INTERIOR
- Now uses a more standard headrest design.

WIRING
- First year for OBD2 Civics.
- First year for standard style 16 pin DLC (Data Link Connector) in Civics.

OPTIONAL PARTS
- Various changes in general from previous generation.


1997
GENERAL
- Sedans are now also assembled in Japan.

COLORS
- Midori Green Pearl discontinued (hatch only color).
- Dark Amethyst Pearl added (hatch only color).
- Inza Red Pearl added (sedan only color).

CHASSIS
- Center three piece floor gusset added to front edge of rear seat. This is for protection during a side impact collision.
- Method of detaching the seat belt retractor changed for coupes and hatches.
- Installation position of washer tube changed.

ENGINE
- Unknown.

EXTERIOR
- Front grille is now "two piece". No longer "one piece" design used on 1996.
- Molding side seal added (for windshield).

INTERIOR
- Method for installing rear cushion in coupe and hatch was changed.

WIRING
- Unknown.

OPTIONAL PARTS
- Front under spoiler added to some trims.


1998
GENERAL
- GX sedan (EN1) trim added in US. This is the rare compressed natural gas model.

COLORS
- Granada Black Pearl discontinued.
- Flamenco Black Pearl added.
- Frost White discontinued (coupe and sedan color).
- Taffeta White added (coupe and sedan color).
- Island Coral Pearl discontinued (coupe and sedan color).

CHASSIS
- Black hood latch cover added.

ENGINE
- Unknown.

EXTERIOR
- Hatches now have handle at top of license plate garnish so you can open the hatch.

INTERIOR
- Bodies with moonroofs get map lights above rearview mirror.
- Hatches now have pin push lock style lock for rear hatch.
- Entire climate control under dash changes design.

WIRING
- Some wiring changes this year.

OPTIONAL PARTS
- Front lip added for coupes in US market (and for hatches and sedans in some other markets).
- Rear lip added for coupes in US market (and sedans in some other markets).


1999
GENERAL
- Si coupe (EM1) trim added. This is the somewhat uncommon DOHC VTEC model.
- VP sedan (EJ6) trim added.

COLORS
- Cypress Green Pearl discontinued (coupe and sedan color).
- Clover Green Pearl added (coupe and sedan color).
- Electron Blue Pearl added (coupe only color).
- Cyclone Blear Metallic discontinued (sedan only color).
- Iced Teal Pearl added (sedan only color).

CHASSIS
- Core support redesigned for new front end update.
- Fender stiffeners (behind headlights, near fender) redesigned a bit. This can make a conversion fit better I'm told.

ENGINE
- EX (D16Y8) begins using different distributors with 8 pin instead of 0 pin plug.
- EX (D16Y8) now are closed head casting instead of open head casting.
- EX (D16Y8) 2 wire IACV built into throttle body (instead of 3 wire attached to back of intake manifold ).

EXTERIOR
- Large exterior front end update.
--- Lower grille made smaller.
--- Fake brake ducts added to bumper.
--- Upper grille made wider and taller.
--- Headlights made pointier.
--- Headlights no longer have amber cap over turn signal, but instead use an amber bulb and amber reflector between headlight and turn signal sections (instead of amber strip at bottom of turn signal section).
--- Fenders and hood redesigned to fit headlights, grille and bumper.
- Coupe and sedan rear bumpers gets slight "lip" added to the bottom of the bumper.
- Sedan gets larger, more pointed taillights.
- Sedan license plate garnish redesigned to a more pointed one.
- Sedan trunk redesigned to accomidate the new tailights and license plate garnish.
- Coupes and hatches get red and white tailight lenses (previous years had amber for turn signals). Amber bulbs now used for turn signals and they use a different bulb style too.
- Sedans (besides GX) remove the a-pillar mounted antenna and now have a rear windshield intergrated antenna.

INTERIOR
- Climate control redesigned. Electronically controlled instead of cable controlled. Now uses knobs and buttons (instead of sliders and buttons).
- Radio is now 1.25 DIN instead of 1 DIN (like earlier years).
- Keyless entry brain no longer on factory head unit. Now is a separate unit.
- Cubby / CD/casette slave space is not in the climate control area instead of down above the cupholders. Also has a non-removable cubby down above the cupholders.
- Cupholder lid is gone. Now uses two different size cupholders too.
- Dome light turns on when you remove the key from the ignition.
- Emergency flashers flash with keyless entry.
- Defrost button moved from top of climate control section to bottom of climate control section.
- "Unleaded Fuel Only" removed from gauge cluster.
- Height adjustable driver's seat added to some models.

WIRING
- OBD2B instead of OBD2A.

OPTIONAL PARTS
- Front lip redesigned to thinner design.
- Rear lip (for coupes and sedans) redesigned to thinner design.
- Coupe spoiler made twice as tall and LED CHMSL is not as wide anymore.
- Sedan spoiler more pointed than before and no longer has the middle "leg".
- Fog lights redesigned. Round only available and they now have a dark silverish colored bezel around them.

2000
GENERAL
- Unknown.

COLORS
- Dark Amethyst Pearl discontinued (hatch only color).
- Vintage Plum Pearl added (sedan only color).
- Titanium Metallic added (sedan only color).

CHASSIS
- Unknown.

ENGINE
- Unknown.

EXTERIOR
- Child seat anchor plate removal and installation procedures are different.
- Child seat anchor plates on rear deck now are on car standard instead of optional (coupes/sedans only?).

INTERIOR
- Unknown.

WIRING
- Unknown.

OPTIONAL PARTS
- Unknown.

petec920
10-31-2009, 04:00 PM
ok i got a question about wiring are the plugs on a 96 the same as a 00 as far as the floor harness goes to do the power window lock mirror swap.. also wondering if i could use a sendan wiring harness and just tuck away the plugs for the back doors or take the pins out and pretty much make one for a hatch... i dont care bout rear defroster

NOFX
11-01-2009, 01:46 AM
ok i got a question about wiring are the plugs on a 96 the same as a 00 as far as the floor harness goes to do the power window lock mirror swap.. also wondering if i could use a sendan wiring harness and just tuck away the plugs for the back doors or take the pins out and pretty much make one for a hatch... i dont care bout rear defroster
No, they're different plugs. Use the appropriate year span ('96-'98 or '99-'00).

You could use a sedan, but I wouldn't because it's so easy to find the right one and do it the right way.

petec920
11-01-2009, 01:00 PM
ok so i would have to get the 96-98 door harness than because i have 2000 doors on there right now.... and its hard round here to find that harness i have to drive an hour away just to get that one out of a sedan in a junkyard

NOFX
11-02-2009, 02:31 AM
No sure where in DE you are, but finding parts here isn't that hard. I grew up in DE.

This might help (part probably not listed in the drop down, but just look for something you know would be on a coupe and hatch but not a sedan. Remember some body parts on a car might not be available because of damage).

http://www.car-part.com/

You could always just buy it from out of state too.

Oh, and I've live in WA for the past four years. WA has tons of Hondas and a large Honda scene. Sometimes I still have to drive an hour or two, but it's really not a big deal if I don't need to go back.

Wilshire001
12-16-2009, 08:26 PM
No.

Exactly what sort of differences are you looking for? Exterior cosmetic, interior cosmetic, wiring, etc?

I'm looking for exterior cosmetic. Like a comparison of the front end, fenders, sides etc. Both pictures showing the same angle of either Civic.

NOFX
12-16-2009, 08:53 PM
I'm looking for exterior cosmetic. Like a comparison of the front end, fenders, sides etc. Both pictures showing the same angle of either Civic.
Well that definitely explains your other post in the post your '96-'98 front thread where you said some '96-'98 Civics looked like '99-'00s.

Look at his thread.

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2278221

Wilshire001
12-17-2009, 08:20 PM
Well that definitely explains your other post in the post your '96-'98 front thread where you said some '96-'98 Civics looked like '99-'00s.

Look at his thread.

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2278221

thanks, this is exactly what i was looking for