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Shogun
10-14-2005, 12:28 AM
Check this vid, its awesome. I hope it works

click me (http://www.hybrid-racing.com/images/gallery/videos/Shorty1.1.wmv)

bizoneoeh
10-14-2005, 12:31 AM
it's a repost dawg, but it's still a baddass vid :thumbs up

TiiM iiS l3eAsT
10-14-2005, 01:10 AM
so the evo had 22 psi? and still got smoked thats sad....good vid!

c1v1cs1
10-14-2005, 01:21 AM
nice vid seen it before fast car

King Bob
10-14-2005, 01:27 AM
no way, that was a stock k20 ?

TiiM iiS l3eAsT
10-14-2005, 01:29 AM
i know....im sry but a 22psi turbod evo should smoke that no prob....

King Bob
10-14-2005, 01:30 AM
i know....im sry but a 22psi turbod evo should smoke that no prob....


agreed this dosent make sense

deaconwagers
10-14-2005, 02:16 AM
no sense made, but still...a $30k+ supercar getting it's ass handed to it by a mid 90's econobox. nice kill.

rollinj86
10-14-2005, 02:29 AM
Word around some other forums was that the video was a fake i guess some kind of setup to make k20's look good.

deaconwagers
10-14-2005, 02:55 AM
anyone know what k20 hatches usually run?

FRODO
10-14-2005, 02:58 AM
it's a repost dawg, but it's still a baddass vid :thumbs up

yeah big repost and welcome back.

Au10tik
10-14-2005, 05:19 AM
First of all, the first time that eg and Evo downs it, check the car out behind the Evo. As you can see they're going about the same speed. The Evo doesn't even pull at all (or the evo doesn't even pound it at all). And the last run, when the camera was in the Evo, as the hatch comes up to the car in front of him, it looks like the car in front of him was going faster than the hatch. I don't know how they pull these things off, but it's F***** BS!!!!!! I live in Hawaii and Evo's with 14PSI goes easily low 13's with traction on street tires. I have a friend with just the common bolt-ons on his WRX, on street tires with a 60' of 2.0 with 12psi of boost and he hits mid 13's. In my opinion, that vid was of the charts BS! That's some shame crap! :oops:

93b16hatch
10-14-2005, 01:21 PM
First of all, the first time that eg and Evo downs it, check the car out behind the Evo. As you can see they're going about the same speed. The Evo doesn't even pull at all (or the evo doesn't even pound it at all). And the last run, when the camera was in the Evo, as the hatch comes up to the car in front of him, it looks like the car in front of him was going faster than the hatch. I don't know how they pull these things off, but it's F***** BS!!!!!! I live in Hawaii and Evo's with 14PSI goes easily low 13's with traction on street tires. I have a friend with just the common bolt-ons on his WRX, on street tires with a 60' of 2.0 with 12psi of boost and he hits mid 13's. In my opinion, that vid was of the charts BS! That's some shame crap! :oops:

Yeh thats the quarter mile though. Evo's and WRX's have a advantage over hondas. AWD imagine if hondas had AWD i'd like to see what kind of times they run then. The K20 hatch and EVO arent running it from a dead stop. So the EVO's advantage isn't working to it's advantage. I'm sure from a dead stop the evo would have him. Also if i recall correctly its a JDM k20 which is 220hp plus they dont mention if its got headers exhaust and intake which is supposed to add more hp on a k series then any other honda motor. How much do EVO's weigh? Im sure its got atleast 700lbs more then the hatch.

cheezeonmakneez
10-15-2005, 12:37 AM
First of all, the first time that eg and Evo downs it, check the car out behind the Evo. As you can see they're going about the same speed. The Evo doesn't even pull at all (or the evo doesn't even pound it at all). And the last run, when the camera was in the Evo, as the hatch comes up to the car in front of him, it looks like the car in front of him was going faster than the hatch. I don't know how they pull these things off, but it's F***** BS!!!!!! I live in Hawaii and Evo's with 14PSI goes easily low 13's with traction on street tires. I have a friend with just the common bolt-ons on his WRX, on street tires with a 60' of 2.0 with 12psi of boost and he hits mid 13's. In my opinion, that vid was of the charts BS! That's some shame crap! :oops:
I'm with you on this one. in the end of the vid the evo was barely gaining on that semi. Maybe its an oz rally with evo kit? either way that hatch sounded pretty sweet but a bs vid

eggie75
10-16-2005, 12:36 AM
bs vid. fun to watch tho.

importwarriorsi
10-16-2005, 01:11 AM
Well guys there is a weight advantage in the hatch or did you forget that part.
I beat a few evos and an sti with my stock turbo MR2 boasting at 12psi.
There not that hard to beat beacuse of the weight advantage.
Plus I have seen hatches beat evos and sti with H22 in them as well.
Really the only advatages they do have over the hatches is the 4 wheel drive.
Oh and a true 300 hp at the wheel not the flywheel.

Au10tik
10-16-2005, 01:21 AM
I know Evo's weigh much MORE than a hatch. Even if the hatch had a JDM K20 in there, i know the Evo still is heavier, but at 22 PSI of boost at that speed they were SUPPOSE to be going, the Evo is already BOOSTIN' like crazy! If anything, if the race between the Evo at 22 PSI and the EG hatch with an JDM K20, the Evo should be on his ass, or the Evo would eat his ass up! Tell me this, who would be boosting at 22 PSI without any bolt-ons or goodies. That's just stupid. Unless that Evo was stock then it would be a different story.

importwarriorsi
10-16-2005, 01:27 AM
This is where it come from. http://hybrid-racing.com/

NewEraImports09
10-16-2005, 05:30 PM
I didnt bother downloading the video again but if its the one with the eg hatch and the yellow evo then what u must look at is that the hatch is NOT stock obviously, the ecu may be stock but not the car. Another thing is that yes, the evo's big advantage over the civic is that it has awd, which plays a big role on those 1/4 mile times but on the highway things change.
Has anyone ever seen Rion's hatch run on the highway, i believe he posted in this thread. Check out his hatch against Jezek's h22 hatch that shit is mean boyyyy. My previus AWD Eclipse was pushing nearly 300hp, and off the line i beat all the hondas i came up against, but i raced a gsr on the highway and he kept up for like a second or two. ten slowly pulled him. Try launchin in a honda at 5000 rpms and like i said thats where the difference is other than that the video is very beliveable. Now lets say that the evo is fairly stock and that hatchie is makin about 250 with the upgrades(remember its got 220 stock) the weight of the hatch shoul;d make up for the 50hp theevo has over it. Another thing to look at is that the evo might not be pumpin out those so-called 22psi

Au10tik
10-17-2005, 08:28 AM
To all of you who wants to debate if the vid is BS or NOT. Watch the clip VERY CAREFULLY! If you have, tell me this, the first run that they did take a look at the EVO. Is the STOCK car behind him racing also? Cuz it looked like the car behind the EVO was on his ass also. It's like the EVO didn't even try.

And about the PSI crap, if sometimes the amount of PSI you're boosting doesn't always come along then don't mention it. That stupid!

Nine78Guy
10-17-2005, 04:01 PM
hahahaha......you guys just don't know how fast the k is. You people who think this video is bs is stupid. they were pullin from zero into on comming traffic. that explains why that car made it seem like the evo didn't want to pull. love the way the k sounds.

Going-West
10-17-2005, 04:33 PM
First of all, the first time that eg and Evo downs it, check the car out behind the Evo. As you can see they're going about the same speed. The Evo doesn't even pull at all (or the evo doesn't even pound it at all). And the last run, when the camera was in the Evo, as the hatch comes up to the car in front of him, it looks like the car in front of him was going faster than the hatch. I don't know how they pull these things off, but it's F***** BS!!!!!! I live in Hawaii and Evo's with 14PSI goes easily low 13's with traction on street tires. I have a friend with just the common bolt-ons on his WRX, on street tires with a 60' of 2.0 with 12psi of boost and he hits mid 13's. In my opinion, that vid was of the charts BS! That's some shame crap! :oops:

first of all, evo's run low-mid 13's stock at 19psi, not 14. you guys need to learn a little about awd parasitic drag and power/weight ration

House Special
10-17-2005, 04:52 PM
this is that same classic stories of everybody going "i want a skyline" and then you're actually in one stock and the hype dies down a little. sometimes people overestimate cars simply because of numbers. some of you hit it right on the head. You gotta understand the way these motors work and not just numbers. Many of evos and such get smoked still by these supposed "inferior" street cars.

BoxinEJ20
10-17-2005, 08:57 PM
that evo needs the proper mods to run 22psi which i doubt he has. Just b/c he is running that much boost doesnt mean he is faster, hes most likely slower. His ecu is definitely pulling timing from detonation and knock. A modded evo would walk all over that k20 unless its boosted. Anyone who disagree's doesnt know shit.

Mr. EeeKaY
10-17-2005, 09:29 PM
i dunno... i say b.s. i've got friends wit a sti, a rsx (base), gti 1.8t, rsx-s, 350z, h22 eg, b18 ef, b16 eg and we have our fun. But from experience from playin' and what not, and from the stuff around the video (cars in front and back, and the ground looks kinda slow to be spankin' an evo) but yea, i just don't think it's possible.

eggie75
10-18-2005, 02:22 PM
yeah... i know ppl w/ evo's, sti's rsx-s, turbo tegs, turbo civs ect ect... k20 nice, but not 22lbs boost nice. if that evo was running 22lbs... his acceleration wouldn't be linear as it is.

ner0x
10-26-2005, 12:45 AM
first of all, evo's run low-mid 13's stock at 19psi, not 14. you guys need to learn a little about awd parasitic drag and power/weight ration
lol
i was reading this and thinking in my head these guys are idiots.... but mrmm, you clarified everything.
the evo runs mid-high 13s on the stock 19psi it comes with, boosting up to 22 psi isnt going to do much very much to a 3400llb car compared to a 2500llb semi-stripped eg.

my friend has a stock k20 in his ek, nothing stripped and he runs 13.4-13.7 all day. (faster than the evo) now that is a 2500llb car.

the evo wieghs 3100-3400llbs comparing that to the 2100llb hatch, semi-stripped, ofcourse the k20 hatch is going to rip it apart. but im sure if they raced from a stop it wouldn't be like that, the evo 0-60 time is incredible.

marcuschuang
10-26-2005, 09:25 PM
it is very bs to promote k20's in hatches they do sell k20 swap mounts...By the way a stock evo boost about 20psi @ 3300 then back to 17psi @ 6500..with a very limited stock ecu that is why they gain so much with a reflash vs a k20 gutted to hell hatch..The hatch should win..plus that is 20psi on a 16g...can you imagine 20psi on a gt35....And dont say ones turbo and ones all motor because we all know a dam evo has turbo

I.D.B.
10-29-2005, 08:35 AM
so the evo had 22 psi? and still got smoked thats sad....good vid!
as much as i love that vid that evo is not pushing 22psi sorry guys think again , have you seen the k20 hatch(green) and the camaro go at it in another vid and the camaro well keeps up , and a evo pushing 22psi will smoke a camaro THINK %UCKERS

I.D.B.
10-29-2005, 08:38 AM
a evo pushing 22psi has to give i=him at least 375-400 whp civic is what 185 whp no chance love the vid but say what you wnat its not happening sorry %uckers you dont know everything go back to school

Shogun
10-29-2005, 03:59 PM
a evo pushing 22psi has to give i=him at least 375-400 whp civic is what 185 whp no chance love the vid but say what you wnat its not happening sorry %uckers you dont know everything go back to school
ok, why in the hell did you post pretty much the same shit back to back? oh, and stock evos run on 19 psi right? or am I wrong so 22 psi really doesn't give it that much more hp. Even thought the evo is awd, they were going from a roll, which really didn't give the evo that much of an advantage off of the line. And since the hatch is atleast 1000 lbs lighter than the evo, and its prolly pushing out about 210 whp. So nobody really knows if the video is fake or real, except for the racers. So accept it %ucker

I.D.B.
11-01-2005, 11:35 AM
if no one knows then quit saying how great the vid is pig %ucker

BoxinEJ20
11-01-2005, 01:35 PM
lol 3 psi doesnt give that much more power eh? 3psi and catless exahaust on a wrx will get you 40-50whp. On evos it would be even more, since they are running a 16g which is much bigger than a wrx td04-13t.

FSA_Hatch
11-01-2005, 03:31 PM
Yeah some people dont realize how fast k20's are. I unno about a fully stock one but i know i've seen sum run 11's and for sure 12's. It all depends on how u tune it. But yeah the evo got smoked

Au10tik
11-02-2005, 06:27 AM
In my opinion, which will not and doesn't have to be opinionated is that THIS VID IS A BS VID! until I'm proven wrong. And that video doesn't cut it!!! Let me see some time slips plz. Hahahhaha! :twisted:

krayziejcs
11-02-2005, 10:19 AM
al gore saw this video when he invented the internet

Hecz
12-14-2005, 10:42 AM
I didnt bother downloading the video again but if its the one with the eg hatch and the yellow evo then what u must look at is that the hatch is NOT stock obviously, the ecu may be stock but not the car. Another thing is that yes, the evo's big advantage over the civic is that it has awd, which plays a big role on those 1/4 mile times but on the highway things change.
Has anyone ever seen Rion's hatch run on the highway, i believe he posted in this thread. Check out his hatch against Jezek's h22 hatch that shit is mean boyyyy. My previus AWD Eclipse was pushing nearly 300hp, and off the line i beat all the hondas i came up against, but i raced a gsr on the highway and he kept up for like a second or two. ten slowly pulled him. Try launchin in a honda at 5000 rpms and like i said thats where the difference is other than that the video is very beliveable. Now lets say that the evo is fairly stock and that hatchie is makin about 250 with the upgrades(remember its got 220 stock) the weight of the hatch shoul;d make up for the 50hp theevo has over it. Another thing to look at is that the evo might not be pumpin out those so-called 22psi

can they take on evos? talking about rion and jezek

element_323
12-15-2005, 08:14 PM
I cant believe all of you are talking about a vid thats a decade OLLLLLLDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!! This thing is bogus get over it!

King Bob
12-15-2005, 08:15 PM
yep this is bullshit!

Shogun
12-15-2005, 08:26 PM
I cant believe all of you are talking about a vid thats a decade OLLLLLLDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!! This thing is bogus get over it!
How can that vid be a decade old? I hope you were being sarcastic

element_323
12-16-2005, 01:55 AM
How can that vid be a decade old? I hope you were being sarcastic

Of course I was being sarcastic :hithead: ;)