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Eran
06-11-2006, 02:33 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-2219344,00.html

Cheating chefs leave bad taste with fake food
From Adam Sage in Paris


THE table is laid, the waiter has taken the order and the diners are looking forward to an outstanding French meal.

But in the kitchen, the chefs are spraying an omelette with a truffle-flavoured chemical and injecting fake wild-mushroom drops into a duck filet.



Science fiction? No, this is the reality in many French restaurants, which are “cheating” their customers with a growing range of artificial products, according to gastronomic purists. They say that the use of flavourings to enhance the taste of otherwise ordinary dishes is misleading because they are rarely mentioned on the menu.

For years, secrecy surrounded the products, which come in liquid and powdered form. They were an unspoken ingredient of contemporary Gallic gastronomy.

But their existence has been brought into the open by two leading chefs, Joel Robuchon and Alain Passard, who have both spoken out against what they describe as a “scandal”.

“It is shameful,” said M Passard, who claims to use only natural ingredients at his celebrated Parisian restaurant, l’Arpège. “I don’t know what to call the people who use these chemicals, but they are not cooks. Cooking is about seasons and nature.”

M Robuchon, widely considered to be one of the most talented chefs of the past 20 years, agreed. He said: “I am 200 per cent against the use of artificial flavours and additives.” However, such flavours appear to be an increasingly common ingredient in French cuisine, with chefs looking for quick, cheap recipes.

Jean-André Charial, who runs the Oustau de la Baumanière hotel and restaurant in Baux-de-Provence, southern France, said: “I know chefs around here who have a drawer full of plastic bottles in their kitchens.

“They put a drop of this in here, and a drop of that in there, but they don’t tell their customers they are doing it. You save time and money, but I think it’s a form of cheating.”

Chefsimon.com, a French culinary website, supplies many of the arômes artificiels that have become popular. These include caviar, truffle, prawn, crab, shallot and cep drops.

The site also explains how to inject wild-mushroom flavour into duck, make a “wine sauce” with a violet-coloured powder, add a zest of bottled scallop to scallop tagliatelli, and spray saffron perfume on to a marzipan turnover.

Chefsimon.com says that its products “faithfully reproduce the sought-after tastes”, adding: “Vanilla, coffee and pistachio flavourings are widely accepted and used in kitchens.

“An increased range should logically be tolerated and accepted by everyone in the end. However, the fear of being accused of cheating prevents the chef from using them openly.”

Another supplier to the French restaurant trade is Pierre-Jean Pébeyre, whose family company has been selling truffles for 110 years.

With France’s annual truffle production falling from 800 tonnes to 12 tonnes during that period and prices now reaching €4,000 (£2,700) a kilo, he has developed an artificial truffle oil, which he says is popular.

add the distinctive taste of the great delicacy to their dishes.

“It is best to spray it on because that spreads it around better,” said M Pébeyre. “A little squirt and you get a far better odour and flavour.



“With truffles costing so much, people are using less and less of them and they need our oil to improve the taste. I think this product is rather good, but it may be that it is misused from time to time.”

He said that chefs who served truffle dishes out of season were tempted to use artificial flavours without saying so. “The fact is that white summer truffles, for instance, have no taste of their own. Customers may not realise that.”

REAL FLAVOUR
Truffles are funghi that grow underground, usually around oak trees

They are harvested using trained pigs or dogs, which can smell the fruiting body.

Highly prized in cooking, they fetch on average £250-£300 a kilo.

The first recorded truffle recipes date to the 1st century AD

Jean Antheleme Brillet-Savarin in his 17th Century work The Physiology of Taste was one of the first to attribute aphrodisiac properties to the truffles

Seriously, fuck this company. They are making powders, sprays, oils, and other nasty chemicals that are designed to simulate the flavors of very expensive, rare, and sought-after items. Such items are wild forrest mushrooms, white truffles, black truffles, safron, scallops, etc. Even worse than the use of such chemicals is the fact that they are being used without the knowlege of the customer. If I'm paying out my ass for a black truffle rissotto, I want it to have black truffles in it.

This disgusts me to the deepest fiber of my being. I'm sure there's not many foodies on this board, but I figured I'd share this with you all.

ryanM
06-11-2006, 02:39 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-2219344,00.html



Seriously, fuck this company. They are making powders, sprays, oils, and other nasty chemicals that are designed to simulate the flavors of very expensive, rare, and sought-after items. Such items are wild forrest mushrooms, white truffles, black truffles, safron, scallops, etc. Even worse than the use of such chemicals is the fact that they are being used without the knowlege of the customer. If I'm paying out my ass for a black truffle rissotto, I want it to have black truffles in it.

This disgusts me to the deepest fiber of my being. I'm sure there's not many foodies on this board, but I figured I'd share this with you all.

i dont really know a lot about food, but that would piss me off if some restaurant tried to do that to me without telling me. even if i probably wouldnt be able to tell the difference :lol:

Going-West
06-11-2006, 02:42 AM
If I ever find out theres fake ingredients in my hot pockets or easy mac there will be hell to pay :twisted:

vandynamics
06-11-2006, 03:01 AM
i want a can of dominos pizza. or grande soft taco's. mmmm

got traction
06-11-2006, 04:17 AM
If I ever find out theres fake ingredients in my hot pockets or easy mac there will be hell to pay :twisted:
:lol:

Going-West
06-11-2006, 04:25 AM
This thread actually kinda makes me hungry....seriously though, that is retarded of them to do that. Even if the majority of people can't tell the difference, they pay a lot for a quality dinner they should get it IMO. Like if I pay 6 bucks for some Chinese food and it's got a little MSG to make it taste better, it's not big deal, but if I pay like 30 bucks at a nice resturant I would except it to be quality, overpriced, wonderfull food :lol:

Melt
06-11-2006, 04:31 AM
if i remember right eran is a professional chef ...

LowNotSlow
06-11-2006, 09:04 AM
wow, unethical.

Eran
06-11-2006, 01:29 PM
This thread actually kinda makes me hungry....seriously though, that is retarded of them to do that. Even if the majority of people can't tell the difference, they pay a lot for a quality dinner they should get it IMO. Like if I pay 6 bucks for some Chinese food and it's got a little MSG to make it taste better, it's not big deal, but if I pay like 30 bucks at a nice resturant I would except it to be quality, overpriced, wonderfull food :lol:

Think higher, dude :lol:

The type of stuff they're imatating are things you'd pay $100+ a plate for.

Wild-mushroom-infused duck con fit. Black truffle and scallop omlettes, safron-marzipan turnovers. These are hardcore fancy shit.

Slept-n
06-11-2006, 06:26 PM
If I ever find out theres fake ingredients in my hot pockets or easy mac there will be hell to pay :twisted:

HAHAHAHA :suprise:

Going-West
06-11-2006, 06:30 PM
Think higher, dude :lol:

The type of stuff they're imatating are things you'd pay $100+ a plate for.

Wild-mushroom-infused duck con fit. Black truffle and scallop omlettes, safron-marzipan turnovers. These are hardcore fancy shit.

Well I don't have that much money, so 30-50 bucks a plate is about as high as I would go right now. I've never even heard of the foods you just listed, the second one sounds like an African dance...shows how much I know about food...I'm gonna go get a grilled cheese now :lol:

CivicKid95
06-11-2006, 06:36 PM
Well I've never run into that when I'm out dining, but I'm working at a french restaurant this summer IN FRANCE and I'll have to let you know if they use the fake shit. I hope not, I'll feel like a bastard. I doubt the chef does, though, he's also the owner. I'm super stoked to go work and learn all about it. Bon Voyage pour moi!

PS I can't wait to have truffles. I haven't had them in years!!!!

ShinsenTuner
06-11-2006, 07:24 PM
I love eating duck.

Inigo Montoya
06-12-2006, 03:20 PM
Well I don't have that much money, so 30-50 bucks a plate is about as high as I would go right now. I've never even heard of the foods you just listed, the second one sounds like an African dance...shows how much I know about food...I'm gonna go get a grilled cheese now :lol:

come to my restaurant bro.. our highest priced item is Steak + Lobster for 39.xx :D

(Eran you may have heard of us; Joey's down on Lake Union.. and they have a new one out in Bellevue)

Personally, I think it's a double edged sword. On one hand, if the price reflects these short cuts, perfect. Fraud on the other hand, isn't cool.

my :2cent:

Going-West
06-12-2006, 03:38 PM
I've heard of Joey's, I go to Bellevue all the time so I'm sure I'll check it out sometime in the summer.

NOFX
06-12-2006, 04:09 PM
if i remember right eran is a professional chef ...
He's a cook... :lol: I've been lectured on not calling a cook a chef before.

I'm okay with using stuff like this if you're made aware of the price or if the price is so low that you have to know they're not using real black truffles (for example) in your dish. When they decieve you into thinking you are purchasing something else, and even worse, makeyou pay for the real deal, then there is a big problem imo.

buzzbombtom
06-12-2006, 04:09 PM
in my resturant we use only the real deal. such as safron you know how much a box of that shit cost? a box is the size of an altoids box...its about 150$. and we use it to flavor rice that no one will even know that its in there. never metntioned in the menue. its all about being real. fuck this new situ that these fags are creating.