b20 or b20z

[civicboy_12]

whats the difference and which 1 should i get in my eg8?
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[DetainedCivic]

b20b or b20z one has a better intake then the other. Go with the b20z

[Steven.]

you still have to use a LS intake for either one.

[civicboy_12]

i seen 2 b20s but 1 intake manifold is bigger than the other....which 1 should i get?

[Steven.]

http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/b20/b20tech.html
i would go B20z.

since you have OBD1, use a OBD1 LS dissy and intakemanifold, and a OBD1 PR4 ecu.

[Ltrain]

those b20b numbers dont look right, if they had ls manifolds and ecu it should be much higher, there comparing it to the stock crv i think

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=category&keyword=JDM%20USDM%20Engines&hit=20
look at hmmotorsonline.com there numbers are totally different for the b20b

[civicboy_12]

i saw 2 b20's, 1 intake manifold is bigger than the other, which 1 should i buy?........and i cnt find the b20z or is one of the engine that i saw?

[Steven.]

no matter what one you buy, you will need to use a LS intake manifold. i would get teh B20z.

[NOFX]

Code Specs Displ. Year(s) Make Model Origin HP Torque CR Chassis Tranny ODB ECU
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B20B(X) 2.0L 16V DOHC PGM-FI 1997 '97-'98 Honda CR-V USDM 126@5400 133@4300 8.8:1 --- --- --- ---
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B20Z(X) 2.0L 16V DOHC PGM-FI 1997 '99-'01 Honda CR-V USDM 146@6400 143@4500 9.6:1 --- --- --- ---
B20Z(X) 2.0L 16V DOHC PGM-FI 1997 '99-'01 Honda CR-V JDM 146@6400 143@4500 9.6:1 --- --- --- ---
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The Xs stand for numbers.

The B20Z seems more difficult to find too.

[Sleeper]

how the hell you get a EG9?

[NOFX]

whats the difference and which 1 should i get in my eg9 (if thats the 4dr civic)?
Digits 3-6 in your VIN tell you your chassis code. The EG9 has a B16A and is a JDM model.

[Sleeper]

Digits 3-6 in your VIN tell you your chassis code.
which will be either EG8 or EH1

[NOFX]

which will be either EG8 or EH1
I thought it could be an EH9 too? I actually also have EG1 as being possible... though I'm not sure. I have EH1 as being a JDM 4WD Ferio model though.

Chassis Code Orgin Model Gen Years Engine Size Engine Code Other Info
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EG1 USDM Civic sedan 5th '92-'95 1.5L D15B8 8-valve
EG8 USDM Civic DX/LX sedan 5th '92-'95 1.5L D15B7 ----
EH9 USDM Civic EX/ESi sedan 5th '92-'95 1.6L D16Z6 VTEC

[civicboy_12]

i knew i had a eg8 and sum clown told me it was a eg9......sorry 4 da typo....lol

[Steven.]

yeah most hondaillterate people just call them by there JDM chassis codes, trying to be "cool"

[Sleeper]

I thought it could be an EH9 too? I actually also have EG1 as being possible... though I'm not sure. I have EH1 as being a JDM 4WD Ferio model though.

Chassis Code Orgin Model Gen Years Engine Size Engine Code Other Info
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EG1 USDM Civic sedan 5th '92-'95 1.5L D15B8 8-valve
EG8 USDM Civic DX/LX sedan 5th '92-'95 1.5L D15B7 ----
EH9 USDM Civic EX/ESi sedan 5th '92-'95 1.6L D16Z6 VTEC

I ment EH9. that our EX.. EG9 is the SiR, US has no EG1 sedan.. EG1 is an Del Sol EG8 is our DX/LX.

My car is an 92 LX EG8

[civicboy_12]

heres the link scroll down and u will c the 2 b20b's 1 intake manifold is bigger........


https://www.tigerjapanese.com/index.php?cPath=42

[Steven.]

there the same engine, teh B20 never came in a integra. either way if it has teh stock intakemanifold you will want to use a LS intake

[civicboy_12]

so yur saying take the smaller 1?

[Steven.]

yeah why not.

[civicboy_12]

so theres no defference in horse power?.......

[civicboy_12]

so is there a difference in hp?

[Steven.]

there both B20b there teh same motors

[civicboy_12]

let me switch it up, if u had my car and u jus looking 2 hang (not really drag jus keep up when yur boys ride out) which motor and tranny would u drop in there?

[Sleeper]

there both B20b there teh same motors
no their not. B20Z had about 20more hp, lil more tq, higher compression (B20B is like 8.5:1), & cylinder oil jets like the VTEC motors.

[Steven.]

B20z, with B16 or type r LSD tranny.

[Sleeper]

let me switch it up, if u had my car and u jus looking 2 hang (not really drag jus keep up when yur boys ride out) which motor and tranny would u drop in there?
B20Z & GSR trans would be the best pretty much. B20B is a low end low rev motor & ITR trans is just a little to close geared for that

[civicboy_12]

i cnt find da b20z ne where for sell, all i can find is the b20b with the small and big manifold.......so ne more ideas beside b20z bcuz i cnt find it

[Steven.]

both say B20B to me....
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/859/dsgdx4.jpg

i know there is a difference between B20B and B20z

[civicboy_12]

ne other ideas or ways 2 keep out besides a b20z.......b20z is so hard 2 find

[NOFX]

heres the link scroll down and u will c the 2 b20b's 1 intake manifold is bigger........


https://www.tigerjapanese.com/index.php?cPath=42
The two B20Bs on there just have pics taken at different angles. The intake manifolds are the same.
no their not. B20Z had about 20more hp, lil more tq, higher compression (B20B is like 8.5:1), & cylinder oil jets like the VTEC motors.
The B20B has 8.8:1 versus the B20Z's 9.6:1. I actually included that in the table on page one.
i cnt find da b20z ne where for sell, all i can find is the b20b with the small and big manifold.......so ne more ideas beside b20z bcuz i cnt find it
Start looking in junkyards.

And PLEASE look at that link Green 91 posted on the first page. It will show you the VISUAL difference between the B20B and the B20Z. It doesn't seem you have them straight yet.
both say B20B to me....
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/859/dsgdx4.jpg

i know there is a difference between B20B and B20z
Aren't all B20a (both the B20B and the B20Z at least) in Japan called B20Bs anyway?
ne other ideas or ways 2 keep out besides a b20z.......b20z is so hard 2 find
You're going to have to look at other places besides online shops. I've found several for sale in my area.

[civicboy_12]

if they are da same size why are different prices........i spoke 2 the guy and he said the cheaper 1 had a bigger manifold

[Steven.]

either one is good, dont worry about the manifold, use a LS inatke manifold.

[civicboy_12]

wat u think abt da b16 2nd gen?

[Steven.]

go b20.

[Handlebars]

there the same engine, teh B20 never came in a integra. either way if it has teh stock intakemanifold you will want to use a LS intake


the b20z's intake manifold fits in a civic engine bay just fine. the b20b's does not.

[civicboy_12]

ok, now abt suspension, i know i got 2 get intgra axiles.......wat else, i want a nice ride 2.......ideas on the back suspension, i already got a tower strut bar for the front.......feel free 2 add more ideas

[ca6vtec]

B20z, with B16 or type r LSD tranny.



B20z is the better buy. For the reason stated by another member. They usually run about $670-$750, but are a bit harder to find than B20b.

No way.. GSR trans all the way. Those B20's don't like the constant high rpm when cruising.

[civicboy_12]

i need sum ideas for th suspension besides the fact i need integra axiles

[Sleeper]

i need sum ideas for th suspension besides the fact i need integra axiles
axles all all to swap, if you want aftermarket its all about you preference

[civicboy_12]

besides the axile ne ideas for a smoooth ride

[ca6vtec]

besides the axile ne ideas for a smoooth ride

I have H&R Springs ( Race ) and Tokico Struts. Ride is pretty smooth, especially on Shitty nYc roads. I had Omni Power Crap on my 94 Hatch, shyt was stiff as crap and bumps were Murder. I also had Tein basics on my 00 GS-R and the ride was just as harsch as the Omni power shyt. On smooth road, they were nice. Use Stock axles.

[civicboy_12]

should i change the shocks and struts?

[ca6vtec]

should i change the shocks and struts?

not if you don't want too. Better yet.. What are you goals for your car? Swap? Suspension? Location?

[civicboy_12]

ight droppin a b20 with a gsr tranny, i live in brooklyn ny and im not really going drag race jus keep up wit da crew when we ride out, my faithful d15 aint cutting it (no shit.......lol) and i wanna 1.5 rear 1.75 front drop on si's

[ca6vtec]

ight droppin a b20 with a gsr tranny, i live in brooklyn ny and im not really going drag race jus keep up wit da crew when we ride out, my faithful d15 aint cutting it (no shit.......lol) and i wanna 1.5 rear 1.75 front drop on si's


A straight B20 or B20VTEC? Get some H&R springs & some nice struts like Tokico/ Koni's.