battery and starting issues

[Paul Canavan]

Help please I have a 97 1.4tornado 3 door that I am having issues with. About a year ago I replaced the alternator. Car ran fine until the wife drove through a huge puddle. Battery light now does not come on with ignition lights and seems as though alternator not charging it. Alternator been checked and differed battery tried but still got same issue. Fuses checked and additional earth lead cleaned and checked. Any ideas please

 

[XpL0d3r]

Just to clarify, when you try to turn the car on, you don't see the battery light? But you can see the rest of the lights on the dash? I'm slightly confused by your wording.

Is the Check Engine Light on at all? It sounds like you still might have some damp electronics or water in a sensor that's screwing something up.

 

[HeX]

Please note this is a US dominant site and a Civic Tornado seems to be a European version hatchback. Its in your best interest to provide added details to make it easier for us to provide help. What engine do you have?

 

[Paul Canavan]

Just to clarify, when you try to turn the car on, you don't see the battery light? But you can see the rest of the lights on the dash? I'm slightly confused by your wording.

Is the Check Engine Light on at all? It sounds like you still might have some damp electronics or water in a sensor that's screwing something up.

Hi sorry no the battery light does not come on but the rest of the ignition lights do come on. And no the engine management light does not come on at all

 

[XpL0d3r]

Hi sorry no the battery light does not come on but the rest of the ignition lights do come on. And no the engine management light does not come on at all

Do you see the CEL come on when first turning the key to ON II? You should see that one lit up with the rest of the dash lights. This is to confirm that the CEL is even working.

 

[Paul Canavan]

Is the CEL a green light with a key in it? If so then yes that light comes on every time

 

[Diana Nam]

Is the CEL a green light with a key in it? If so then yes that light comes on every time

CEL is a orangey/yellow light

 

[Paul Canavan]

Ah the engine light. Yes that comes on then goes out after a few seconds as per normal

 

[Diana Nam]

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Ah the engine light. Yes that comes on then goes out after a few seconds as per normal

can try replacing the bulb in the cluster. most likely the water cause a short that blew the bulb

 

[Paul Canavan]

Ok. And what about the battery issue? It seems as though it's not holding charge from the alternator and we have tested the alternator and that's working fine and I tried a different battery but that still has the same problem

 

[Diana Nam]

Ok. And what about the battery issue? It seems as though it's not holding charge from the alternator and we have tested the alternator and that's working fine and I tried a different battery but that still has the same problem

well normally you wouldn't know. teh battery light only comes on for few sec upon start up if it stayed on it would mean there is something wrong with the charging system

 

[Paul Canavan]

The light is not coming on at all. And it don't seem as though it's holding charge

 

[Diana Nam]

The light is not coming on at all. And it don't seem as though it's holding charge

are you sure its not charging. how big was the water puddle?. also quick easy test for your alternator would be o get the car started and running, while its running disconnect the battery if your car stays on and doesn't die your alternator is good. i would check the battery termial wires with a volt meter should be reading close to 14v with the car running

 

[Paul Canavan]

It was a deep puddle lol and I have tried disconnecting the battery and the car dies instantly also with a voltmeter it reads about 12 then very slowly goes down

 

[Diana Nam]

It was a deep puddle lol and I have tried disconnecting the battery and the car dies instantly also with a voltmeter it reads about 12 then very slowly goes down

ok so your alternator is no good got water damage

 

[Paul Canavan]

Mmmmm I did take it to a garage and they took the alternator apart and tested it. They reckon the brushes are good and it charged in their workshop. Strange.....

 

[Diana Nam]

Mmmmm I did take it to a garage and they took the alternator apart and tested it. They reckon the brushes are good and it charged in their workshop. Strange.....

well if it didn't do it before driving through deep puddle then it safe to say your alternator got water damage. plus a good alternator will always keep your car running with out the battery the car only uses battery to start it. from what you told me its defiantly your alternator i'm pretty sure of it just cause you replaced 2 previous times doesn't really mean much 12v is way to low when the car is running its should rock solid around 14v anything under 13v given off the alternator the charging portion of the alternator is no good. did you check the wiring?

 

[stcopley]

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can try replacing the bulb in the cluster. most likely the water cause a short that blew the bulb

That's not his issue. The light is working fine.

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[stcopley]

Ok. And what about the battery issue? It seems as though it's not holding charge from the alternator and we have tested the alternator and that's working fine and I tried a different battery but that still has the same problem

It could be a large variety of things. Bad starter, shorted wire would be my first 2 checks.

Do you have the stock air intake or a cold air intake?

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[Diana Nam]

It could be a large variety of things. Bad starter, shorted wire would be my first 2 checks.

Do you have the stock air intake or a cold air intake?

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his intake has no part in with the charge system.....completely different thing