Who thinks Muslims should be this easily IDed

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In U.S., fear and distrust of Muslims runs deep

By Bernd Debusmann, Special Correspondent


WASHINGTON (Reuters)- When radio host Jerry Klein suggested that all Muslims in the United States should be identified with a crescent-shape tattoo or a distinctive arm band, the phone lines jammed instantly.

The first caller to the station in Washington said that Klein must be "off his rocker." The second congratulated him and added: "Not only do you tattoo them in the middle of their forehead but you ship them out of this country ... they are here to kill us."

Another said that tattoos, armbands and other identifying markers such as crescent marks on driver's licenses, passports and birth certificates did not go far enough. "What good is identifying them?" he asked. "You have to set up encampments like during World War Two with the Japanese and Germans."

At the end of the one-hour show, rich with arguments on why visual identification of "the threat in our midst" would alleviate the public's fears, Klein revealed that he had staged a hoax. It drew out reactions that are not uncommon in post-9/11 America.

"I can't believe any of you are sick enough to have agreed for one second with anything I said," he told his audience on the AM station 630 WMAL (http://www.wmal.com/), which covers Washington, Northern Virginia and Maryland

"For me to suggest to tattoo marks on people's bodies, have them wear armbands, put a crescent moon on their driver's license on their passport or birth certificate is disgusting. It's beyond disgusting.

"Because basically what you just did was show me how the German people allowed what happened to the Jews to happen ... We need to separate them, we need to tattoo their arms, we need to make them wear the yellow Star of David, we need to put them in concentration camps, we basically just need to kill them all because they are dangerous."

The show aired on November 26, the Sunday after the Thanksgiving holiday, and Klein said in an interview afterwards he had been surprised by the response.

"The switchboard went from empty to totally jammed within minutes," said Klein. "There were plenty of callers angry with me, but there were plenty who agreed."

POLLS SHOW WIDESPREAD ANTI-MUSLIM SENTIMENT

Those in agreement are not a fringe minority: A Gallup poll this summer of more than 1,000 Americans showed that 39 percent were in favor of requiring Muslims in the United States, including American citizens, to carry special identification.

Roughly a quarter of those polled said they would not want to live next door to a Muslim and a third thought that Muslims in the United States sympathized with al Qaeda, the extremist group behind the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington.

A poll carried out by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), an advocacy group, found that for one in three Americans, the word Islam triggers negative connotations such as "war," "hatred" and "terrorist." The war in Iraq has contributed to such perceptions.


Klein's show followed a week of heated discussions on talk radio, including his own, and online forums over an incident on November 22 involving six Muslim clerics. They were handcuffed and taken off a US Airways flight after passengers reported "suspicious behavior" that included praying in the departure gate area.

The clerics, on their way to a meeting of the North American Imams Federation, were detained in a holding cell, questioned by police and FBI agents, and released. Muslim community leaders saw the incident as yet more evidence of anti-Muslim prejudice.

IGNORANCE SEEN AS KEY PROBLEM

Several American Muslims interviewed on the subject of prejudice over the past few weeks said ignorance was at the core of the problem.

The level of knowledge is very, very low," said Mohamed Esa, a U.S. Muslim of Arab descent who teaches a course on Islam at McDaniel College in Maryland. "There are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world and some people think they are all terrorists."

Hossam Ahmed, a retired Air Force Reserve colonel who occasionally leads prayer meetings for the small Muslim congregation at the Pentagon, agreed. "Ignorance is the number one problem. Education is of the essence."

There are no hard figures on how many Muslims have been subject to harassment or prejudice and community leaders say that ugly incidents can prompt spontaneous expressions of support. Such as the e-mail a Minneapolis woman sent to CAIR after the imams were taken off their flight.

"I would like to ... help," the e-mail said. "While I cannot offer plane tickets, I would be happy to drive at least 2 or 3 of them. My car is small, but at least some of our hearts in this land of the free are large."

And optimists saw signs of change in the November 4 election of the first Muslim to the U.S. House of Representatives, which has 435 members.

Democrat Keith Ellison, a 43-year-old African-American lawyer, did not stress his religion during his campaign for a Minnesota seat, but said his victory would "signal to people who are not Muslims that Muslims have a lot to offer to the United States and the improvement of our country."
 

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Wow...people are so ignorant. What that guy did on his radio show was great though, shows people's true colors. I wish there was that kind of journalism going on on the actual news nowadays.

Did these people not learn a thing from the civil rights act or what we did to asians during wwII. It honestly makes me sick...yes these are the people that attacked our country, and if theres a group of 6 muslims getting on a plane with no luggage and a one way ticket, you should probably check them out of a group, but tattooing and branding is f**king wrong on every level. Shame on anyone who would think that is even slightly acceptable.
 


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We need to get Solid Snake and Sam Fisher together and end this war ......
 

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I think they're pretty easily identified when they choose to wear their traditional religious clothing. What a bunch of poppycock.
 


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i distrust government more than muslims :what:

i think government officials should be branded on the forehead so we know to stay away from them :oh:
 

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oc_civic said:
i think government officials should be branded on the forehead so we know to stay away from them :oh:
Actually, I'm all for that one. :lol:
 

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oc_civic said:
i distrust government more than muslims :what:

i think government officials should be branded on the forehead so we know to stay away from them :oh:
Heh, that would be pretty funny :lol:. I just hate how the media has amplified people's fear of the muslims. Some news shows make it seem as though every muslim is on standby waiting to blow something up...
 

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i dont see how it is like what the germans did to the jews? i dont remember the germans being afraid of the jews for blowing s**t up all over the world lol. many members already know my input on the muslims in this country, and around the world, so i wont get back into that. im sure i already started enough.

 

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On second thought, you can pretty easily ID politicians by their flag pin on their suit lapel... too bad the Dhimmiecrats don't wear 'em too much nowadays.
 

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red96civicex said:
send them back to their country
Most of the Muslims who live in the US were born here.
 

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your right, i mean the ones who werent born here...
 

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red96civicex said:
your right, i mean the ones who werent born here...
Why? Maybe if they're illegal, but not legal citizens.
 

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oc_civic said:
i distrust government more than muslims :what:

i think government officials should be branded on the forehead so we know to stay away from them :oh:
i was wrong, oc civic has the right idea, ive heard more stories about our government, then anyone can imagine.
 

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red96civicex said:
imo, i just dont like them.
you gotta be f**king kidding me.. "them"... come on man... people are people.. a religion hardly dictates behavior.. what is it that you dont like about muslims.. :roll: how can you not like an entire group of people so badly that you think they should be forced to leave this country...


please refrain from any racist remarks.. they are against the site rules and WILL get you banned..

no offense i just dont get it
 

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alright well i didnt mean it...but i def. dont trust our government
 

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oc_civic said:
please refrain from any racist remarks.. they are against the site rules and WILL get you banned..
Actually it's not a racist remark... plenty of white people are Muslims... he's participating in religious profiling :lol:
 

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red96civicex said:
imo, i just dont like them.
Man, come on.

There's a difference between saying "I don't like muslims," and saying "I dont like muslim extremists because they nearly always resort to violence to solve an issue."

I def. agree with the last part, but not the first one.
 

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Generally I just don't like extremists. Muslim, Christian, whatever.
 


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