1991 Civic CX Project, I need your opinion and knowledge !

FGervais

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Hi there,
I bought a 1991 Civic CX hatch from my gandma, I wanted this car since my childhood...
The this is D15 automatic.
The shell is A1, I put tower strut bars and wheels. Now I need to plan serious things for it.

In this order:
-Conversion 4 wheel disc brakes, with integra rear trailing arms
-Sporty suspension kit
-Engine/tranny swap !

What would you recommend as a ''reliable'' Engine swap ?
Do you have JDM parts reseller to recommend ?

Thanks,
Fred
 

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Mr.Baker

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What are your power goals and budget?
 


FGervais

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What are your power goals and budget?
Hi Mr.Baker,
For the power, anything will be better than the stock D15
Let's say I have many years in front of me to do the project, and let's say maybe 5K$ max. over the years
This is not my daily car, so this will be made for fun.
 

Mr.Baker

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Based on your budget, timetable and the fact that it is not a daily driver. I say keep it simple and do a nice stock Integra GSR swap, B18c1.
For the car and how much it weighs, it will be a nice power upgrade and nowadays, the b series swap is just about drop in and bolt up.
 


FGervais

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Based on your budget, timetable and the fact that it is not a daily driver. I say keep it simple and do a nice stock Integra GSR swap, B18c1.
For the car and how much it weighs, it will be a nice power upgrade and nowadays, the b series swap is just about drop in and bolt up.
Thanks for your answer Mr.Baker, that's helpful :agreed:
 

SleeveOfWizard

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Cost vs power, no.
You'd be farther ahead just buying the GSR as a starting point.
Lol, the best is to do research and break the costs down piece by Piece....1 cam vs 2 cams, 16 valve vs 8 valves etc.
Differentiate between guys whi have actually done builds/swaps and guys spitting out what they here on the internet=) good luck
 

Mr.Baker

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Lol, the best is to do research and break the costs down piece by Piece....1 cam vs 2 cams, 16 valve vs 8 valves etc.
Differentiate between guys whi have actually done builds/swaps and guys spitting out what they here on the internet=) good luck
Over the last 20 yrs, this kind of data and info have been documented.
 

SleeveOfWizard

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Need more proof? How about new axles, ecu, mounts etc. Wanna keep your a/c? Need new bracket for that as well. This is why i mentioned to do a d series build. What others dont tell you, is the extras to get everything working. They regurgitate what they read.
 

Mr.Baker

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For the power, anything will be better than the stock D15
True, but what are your realistic power goals?
All in, if you do the labor yourself, you can get a GSR swapped into that hatch for around $2500 or so all in.
Be sure to do all the maintenance items while the motor is out, clutch, seals, water pump, timing belt, etc...


Need more proof?
You haven't proven anything by posting two dollar figures....

It's gonna come down to power goals.
If simply just swapping in a Z6 will make the owner happy, sure then yes, it ,makes sense to not do a B series vtec.
But with the weight of the 4th gen, that little hatch will scoot around nicely with a GSR in it.
I'd rather spend the money up front for something better overall, then settle for another d series, not be happy with it, rip it out only to put a b series vtec in it.
 

pmac193

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Need more proof? How about new axles, ecu, mounts etc. Wanna keep your a/c? Need new bracket for that as well. This is why i mentioned to do a d series build. What others dont tell you, is the extras to get everything working. They regurgitate what they read.
This guy said in the first post he was going to pull the brakes off an integra, I'm sure he can pick up the rear mount, axles and ecu while he's at it.....

You're trying to suggest a boosted d series is a more straight forward build and more reliable than a b swap running a stock ecu? :???:
 

SleeveOfWizard

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Absolutely, less moving parts. Why does everyone jump on the dohc bandwagon? Im rebuilding the f22 in my accord, why? Less moving parts, less that can go wrong. Btw, my sohc head flows better than an h22. Lots of research to be done my friends. I guess i just appreciate the simplicity of the sohc and its sleeper potential. Whatever you guys decide on, you can't go wrong with any option presented to you. Mr. Baker has a great point, you definately can't go wrong with the gsr. Torque or high end, both? Many options. Post what you ended up deciding on
 

Mr.Baker

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You're trying to suggest a boosted d series is a more straight forward build and more reliable than a b swap running a stock ecu? :???:
Absolutely, less moving parts.
How so?
You've added more parts to what is essentially an economy motor (SOHC D).
Because you've added more parts ( for boost) you're spending more money on those parts just to get it to where a twin cam b series vtec would be power wise to begin with?
Then factor in quality of parts, installation and tune, lots of chances to go wrong....
 

SleeveOfWizard

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Out of respect for FGervais, he asked for opinions. Your turning into debate, you are absolutely right and Gervais, this guy is right. Follow his plan and let us all know how it turned out. Good luck!
 

pmac193

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Absolutely, less moving parts. Why does everyone jump on the dohc bandwagon? Im rebuilding the f22 in my accord, why? Less moving parts, less that can go wrong. Btw, my sohc head flows better than an h22. Lots of research to be done my friends. I guess i just appreciate the simplicity of the sohc and its sleeper potential.
What are you talking about?
 



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