Envirosafe R-12
- Thread starter YeLLoWCiViC
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it wont match the cooling power of good ol' r12, but then again..... not much will
if your system is currently setup for r12, the r134a will still cause problems over time.
the "retrofit" that most shops do and the kits you can buy at auto parts stores are kind of a joke.
you would need to replace all of the seals, the condenser, etc etc to do a true retrofit.
the envirosafe r12 is better for your a/c system than r134a, as in it wont damage the seals and such, but it wont quite cool as well as r134a either....
if your system is currently setup for r12, the r134a will still cause problems over time.
the "retrofit" that most shops do and the kits you can buy at auto parts stores are kind of a joke.
you would need to replace all of the seals, the condenser, etc etc to do a true retrofit.
the envirosafe r12 is better for your a/c system than r134a, as in it wont damage the seals and such, but it wont quite cool as well as r134a either....
YeLLoWCiViC said:
Some guy on another forum said it cooled at 40 degrees with the ambient air being at 90 degrees. sure beats being all sweaty during the summer like i am 
it still cools, it still works pretty good... just not as well as other coolants
but your a/c system will last longer if with it... r134a will kill your seals
$lick Rick said:
well dont expect his results to the norm.... infact.. dont expect his results to be all that truthfull
it still cools, it still works pretty good... just not as well as other coolants
but your a/c system will last longer if with it... r134a will kill your seals
it still cools, it still works pretty good... just not as well as other coolants
but your a/c system will last longer if with it... r134a will kill your seals
Yeah thats why i dont wanna convert it to r-134 id rather spend a few more dollars and have my a/c last longer than get the r-134 quick and a year later have to buy another a/c system
my instructor from Vo Tech still has a huge 50 lb. can of it that we used on cars all the time, shame you arent in PA or I'd hook you up
Freeze 12 is a blend refrigerant. 80% R-134a and 20% HCFC-142b.
I think you still need an EPA Section 602 license or greater for purchasing Freeze 12
It doesn't contain butane though like most drop-in replacements for R-12. That's a good thing.
I worked with a guy that would retrofit R-134a systems to Freeze 12. It worked better than the R-134a refrigerant. He did a Party Bus and that s**t was like a meat locker with the A/C on high.
If you're in Dallas, there's a shop over near Swiss Ave and Good-Latimer that sells it. I can't remember their name now but it's one block north and east of The Lizard Lounge. Uh-OhZone and Uh-OhReilly won't sell it because their A/C part supplier won't honor warranty when a drop-in replacement is used.
It's still molecularly smaller than R-12 so if you have leaks on R-12 you are going to continue to have leaks on Freeze 12.
Or you can take a trip to Juarez and try to smuggle some 500 g cans of R-12 back.
I think you still need an EPA Section 602 license or greater for purchasing Freeze 12
It doesn't contain butane though like most drop-in replacements for R-12. That's a good thing.
I worked with a guy that would retrofit R-134a systems to Freeze 12. It worked better than the R-134a refrigerant. He did a Party Bus and that s**t was like a meat locker with the A/C on high.
If you're in Dallas, there's a shop over near Swiss Ave and Good-Latimer that sells it. I can't remember their name now but it's one block north and east of The Lizard Lounge. Uh-OhZone and Uh-OhReilly won't sell it because their A/C part supplier won't honor warranty when a drop-in replacement is used.
It's still molecularly smaller than R-12 so if you have leaks on R-12 you are going to continue to have leaks on Freeze 12.
Or you can take a trip to Juarez and try to smuggle some 500 g cans of R-12 back.