I used to have eibach pro-kits on my car with stock shocks and didn't need a camber kit. The ride quality was close to stock, but the back end sagged. So I decided to get gc with konis so that I could lower exactly how low I wanted it and made sure the front sat alittle lower than the back. I already have changed the height of it like 3 times, and getting an alignment each time does suck. If anyone needs any pics of what pro-kits look like installed drop wise, let me know.