that is one of the biggest issues..That story is sure to enrage anyone. What does the U.S. do with these illegal alien criminals? I assume that they are imprisoned, but that's insult upon injury given that taxpayer's foot the bill for prison costs. Or do they deport these bad guys?
.. but they sure as hell should not be sent back to where they came from.. most of those nations are extremely corrupt and the person would likely be set free, only to illegally come back here yet again..
This is exactly what I was thinking. The whole situation is the definition of a conundrum.
but you (not you) are telling me we can NOT stop a bunch of Mexicans from slipping into the country .. thats bullshit.. we are simply not trying hard enough..
Most likely boils down to one thing -- money. Most taxpayers probably agree with your position on this issue, but are just not willing to pay for it, especially in the current economic climate.
landmines are VERY scary and psychologically intimidating.. AWESOME weapon!Yea... money is the issue... That's a large.. large border.
Let's just lay some landmines in random places along the border. That'll discourage border hopping, and will be cost effective.
I'm just kidding of course... but hell, it'd work.
the problem is suffering at the hands of someone who is not even legally here... THAT is the point..oh f**king god... white people, black people, asian people.... all do this s**t all the time. Hit and runs aren't limited to only illegal aliens. Get rid of all the illegal aliens in the country and you'll still have the same s**t happening.
I'm more worried about white trash abusing the system like welfare and taking my hard earned money to feed their pill poppin habbits. there's TONS of lazy white trashy people all over the usa not having to work because uncle sam (my tax money) is supporting them and thier trailer trash children. All they have to do is pretend they have some sort of mental issue and BAM!... they get ssi... food stamps.... cash assistance.... rental assistance.... A friend of mines white trashy friend just received $25,000 dollars in back SSI this past month and it's all gone already and she has nothing to show for it. the state even took away her kids for a year but she now has them back and I'm paying for those little cunts to eat. their white whore trashy mother does not and will probably NEVER have to work a day in her life.
I don't know about you guys but I'm not worried about getting hit by an illegal alien! don't get me wrong tho... I'm not a fan of illegal aliens, I'm just tired of seeing you guys b***h about illegal when white trashy americans are probably hurting us more than you want to admit. There's whole communities of apartments over here filled with nothing but white people abusing the system. they have their rent paid... BY ME!... their food paid... BY ME!.... all they have to worry about is if they have enough money to buy liquor and oxycodins for the day.... and I'm the f**king one buying it for them!
thisWow biz, those are completely awesome points. I think oc's point is that such crimes are all the more worse when committed by someone who has entered the country illegally.
Oh I agree with you completely and I'm sure my own father would too! I wish the US would step it up on illegal immigration and as a matter of fact, I think they are! Just today there was a huge immigration raid here in Grand Rapids!the problem is suffering at the hands of someone who is not even legally here... THAT is the point..
your little girl.. all grown up.. out with a few friends.. and some illegal immigrant runs her over kills her dead in the street.. it SUCKS to know that had the government done their share by securing the border, it would HOT have happened.. thats the issue
it is NOT to say that ALL illegals are bad..
it is NOT to say that ALL illegals commit crimes..
the POINT is instead that when someone who is ILLEGALLY here violates the rights of someone who is LEGALLY here.. it is a little EXTRA f**ked up..
oh yeah, I totally know that! but I live in a white section of America so that's what I see first hand.Biz does have a point. But its not just white people abusing that system. There are PLENTY of blacks and legal hispanics that abuse the system. I made the mistake of walking into the bank on the 15th. I literally counted. There were 2 white people including myself, and 28 blacks. I dont know how it is in other areas, but around here the 15th is the day people get their welfare checks. Its not just whites.
And I will admit, the area I went to the bank for has a decent number of blacks. Just wanted to point it out that its not all us white folk.oh yeah, I totally know that! but I live in a white section of America so that's what I see first hand.
they are ILLEGAL immigrants.. they are UNCOUNTED.. so your "facts" are simply made up.. you have NO idea how many are here by simply walking across the border..If I may, I think it's a rather futile effort to try and keep illegal immigrants out of the country. Most of them come to stay here by overstaying their visas anyway, so increasing border patrol wouldn't stop the majority of illegal immigrants. Also, as RonJ said, with the current economic climate, it's difficult to find funds or support for such endeavors.
For what I know of the situation, the amount of money we could spend to keep illegal immigrants out of the country would be large compared to its effectiveness.
In my opinion, we shouldn't be trying to keep them out. But I am not saying we should encourage illegal immigrants entering our country.
It all lies in the root of why there are illegal immigrants in this country in the first place. There are two reasons:
1. There are vast economic opportunities in the United States as compared to their home countries
2. The immigration process in the United States is such that they would rather be here illegally than legally
Clearly we don't want to change #1, so I propose we change #2. If we can amend the immigration process, we can reduce the number of illegal immigrants by helping them become citizens. I haven't thought enough into the situation to come up with specific amendments, but I believe a shorter waiting period and higher quotas are in order, or perhaps even fundamental changes to the system.
here is YOUR great idea in action.. lets just ignore the Mexican border.. let anyone waltz in.. these are the people you will be letting in..If I may, I think it's a rather futile effort to try and keep illegal immigrants out of the country. Most of them come to stay here by overstaying their visas anyway, so increasing border patrol wouldn't stop the majority of illegal immigrants. Also, as RonJ said, with the current economic climate, it's difficult to find funds or support for such endeavors.
For what I know of the situation, the amount of money we could spend to keep illegal immigrants out of the country would be large compared to its effectiveness.
In my opinion, we shouldn't be trying to keep them out. But I am not saying we should encourage illegal immigrants entering our country.
It all lies in the root of why there are illegal immigrants in this country in the first place. There are two reasons:
1. There are vast economic opportunities in the United States as compared to their home countries
2. The immigration process in the United States is such that they would rather be here illegally than legally
Clearly we don't want to change #1, so I propose we change #2. If we can amend the immigration process, we can reduce the number of illegal immigrants by helping them become citizens. I haven't thought enough into the situation to come up with specific amendments, but I believe a shorter waiting period and higher quotas are in order, or perhaps even fundamental changes to the system.