kevmachine
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I don't know where to start. I guess by saying that I bought a 1992 civic hatch with a jdm second gen b16a in it, and after driving it home from when I bought it, I noticed smell of fuel was strong, so figured it was running rich or a fuel leak. No fuel is leaking so I took out all 4 spark plugs, and they were all black. Thought may be they were worn out or what ever, so I went and bought ngk platniums and put them in, car ran awesome for around 5 minutes, then the idle started to get jumpy. Shut the car off and looked at the plugs, they were all black again like the old one's. Let me just list some things I tried and did to the car in the few week's I had it.
1. checked ecu for chip/socket. didn't see anything, looked like a stock p30-N21 ecu no jumpers or anything.
2. changed air filter and fuel filter, no difference.
3. Took the vacume line off the fuel pressure regulator to see if any fuel was leaking none was coming out, but I am not sure if this was the proper way to check the fpr. wasn't an adjustable one either, looked oem.
4. tried 2 different sets of plug wires, same thing with either or.
5. check my fuel injectors to see if any were stuck open, non were, not sure if they were oem or after market thou should check that tommorow.
6. checked air intake temp sensor, didn't look melted or anything and was connected correctly cleaned it off and didn't help.
7. the o2 sensor was black, I tried cleaning it up a bit, came out pretty good, but it didn't help as it was still running rich. I am pretty sure there is only suppose to be 1 o2 sensor for this swap correct?
8. did a compression test, the engine was solid with around 209-212 on all 4 cylinders.
9. it's not really burning oil, I am not noticing blue smoke much, unless when I first start it maybe a bit if I rev it up but oil lever's are still all full after a week of idling in the garage.
10. various times I reset the ecu when doing things but no effect.
As far as I can tell with mod's the car has a short ram intake with a new filter I put on. it has a Greedy cat back but I think the converter was removed, unless the converter can look like a resonator cuz it just looked like 2 resonators on the full exhaust system. Headers look like oem 4-2-1.
Things I think could be the promblem but not 100% sure.
1. the ignition system, maybe it's not getting a good enough spark or hot enought I don't know much about this but it is backfiring a bit at 3k rpm, not backfiring but I can hear little pop's as it's idling, when I drove it home it was backfiring loudly the odd time when shifting.
2. ecu could be bad? opened ;it up looked good, didn't see any issues it was clean.
3. the temperature gauge will not move until the engine is at running temp or hotter, then it only move's to like 1/4th mark not even. I didn't notice the fan on the radiator come on since I owned it and I had it idling for 30 minutes once, if this is normal or not I don't know but could this actually cause my car to run that rich? I know it can make it run a bit rich if the engine thinks it's cold, but rich enought to where all 4 spark plugs turn black in a matter of minutes? I don't know.
There's a lot of other things I was thinking but can't recall at this moment, If someone solves this for me I will be very thankful!!! I don't wanna keep dumping money into until I know what's wrong with it, I am thinking new o2 sensor what do you guy's think?
Thanks
Kevin
1. checked ecu for chip/socket. didn't see anything, looked like a stock p30-N21 ecu no jumpers or anything.
2. changed air filter and fuel filter, no difference.
3. Took the vacume line off the fuel pressure regulator to see if any fuel was leaking none was coming out, but I am not sure if this was the proper way to check the fpr. wasn't an adjustable one either, looked oem.
4. tried 2 different sets of plug wires, same thing with either or.
5. check my fuel injectors to see if any were stuck open, non were, not sure if they were oem or after market thou should check that tommorow.
6. checked air intake temp sensor, didn't look melted or anything and was connected correctly cleaned it off and didn't help.
7. the o2 sensor was black, I tried cleaning it up a bit, came out pretty good, but it didn't help as it was still running rich. I am pretty sure there is only suppose to be 1 o2 sensor for this swap correct?
8. did a compression test, the engine was solid with around 209-212 on all 4 cylinders.
9. it's not really burning oil, I am not noticing blue smoke much, unless when I first start it maybe a bit if I rev it up but oil lever's are still all full after a week of idling in the garage.
10. various times I reset the ecu when doing things but no effect.
As far as I can tell with mod's the car has a short ram intake with a new filter I put on. it has a Greedy cat back but I think the converter was removed, unless the converter can look like a resonator cuz it just looked like 2 resonators on the full exhaust system. Headers look like oem 4-2-1.
Things I think could be the promblem but not 100% sure.
1. the ignition system, maybe it's not getting a good enough spark or hot enought I don't know much about this but it is backfiring a bit at 3k rpm, not backfiring but I can hear little pop's as it's idling, when I drove it home it was backfiring loudly the odd time when shifting.
2. ecu could be bad? opened ;it up looked good, didn't see any issues it was clean.
3. the temperature gauge will not move until the engine is at running temp or hotter, then it only move's to like 1/4th mark not even. I didn't notice the fan on the radiator come on since I owned it and I had it idling for 30 minutes once, if this is normal or not I don't know but could this actually cause my car to run that rich? I know it can make it run a bit rich if the engine thinks it's cold, but rich enought to where all 4 spark plugs turn black in a matter of minutes? I don't know.
There's a lot of other things I was thinking but can't recall at this moment, If someone solves this for me I will be very thankful!!! I don't wanna keep dumping money into until I know what's wrong with it, I am thinking new o2 sensor what do you guy's think?
Thanks
Kevin