lol no such thing as a new 2000-2003 vehicle but if you go on like craigslist you're looking at about 3500-7g's for a good one. If you go to a dealer they're just simply overpriced, as is any other car on a dealer lot. The ride is definitely smooth and if you enjoy luxury trims then a TL or CL is just the car for you. And J series motors are pretty strong given 5sp or auto. I drive a CL and I absolutely love it. I had to give up driving a 5 speed tho.