nice DLS Teknique. i am a big fan of white 5, 6, and 7 star 17's. hopefully i'll have mine on by the end of january '03. can't decide tho... 17" white konig tantrums, or 17" white konig rated R's. been working on getting them for a while, and it seems the longer i take, the more i change my mind. but w/e i get i'm sure i'll be happy with.