external conditions maybe..but both were tuned in the NW winter..im not going to go out and say b17 cams because to me c1 cams seem better as well..but when it was tested numbers shown otherwise..the wear on the cams, they were still good. i'd never put anything that looks like its been through war in my or any car i work on, i'd rather buy new..not going against what you said though^^^
That's silly. B18c1 cams are better than b17 cams, only slightly. It must have been wear and external conditions
was it tuned by the same person in the same place?kind of off topic but sort of not
when i built my brother a spoon gsr motor, i put b17 camshafts in, which i was told was better..after i had it tuned, a few years down the road he wanted to put on c1 shafts and when we put it on the dyno again he went from 364 to 303, after some tuning we got it up to 358 but the car felt way different..the powerband just was never the same..so i just bought him some brand new bc cams, a gt30r turbo on a top mount manifold, basically a brand new turbo set up, retune, made 470 hp and was happy
200-220 is the range that im looking for, weather i go ITB or not will be determind later, but at the moment im just planing on going with a extruded OEM manifold, have decided weather to use a C/C5 intake manifold or to go with the C1. I know that ITB's are better for the response aspect and air flow, but at the same time im just ehh on the cost of them. and who ever i get to do the tune later one will have to know what they are doing when it comes to the ITB's in order for me to have the best results.if you build it right you can get to the low 200's to maybe 220's, but thats on a nicely built motor and most of the high hp n/a builds have ITB's.