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ah, okay, my trillian only saves them if they're minimized, because i have archiving turned off. i love trillian, btw. :D

you guys are going sorta overboard... an entire page about semantics. move on with the topic already! :D
 

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Common usage > dictionary definition.

Honestly, basing an argument over semantics and technicalities does nothing but point out faults in your main argument. It doesn't lead to a more civil and educated argument, it just annoys people...especially when it doesn't contribute to the original debate.
 


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im not arguing "for" any race.. i think that race/ethnicity is a f**king stupid thing to even consider.. i give it ZERO consideration.. i judge people who who and what they are.. if you are some lame thugged out wanna be gangster white OR black.. im going to point and laugh.. if you share similar interests.. white or black i will sit talk abd be cool with you.. i have no time for race/ethnic consideration.. if ALL green people were PROVEN to be uncontrollable gay rapist.. i would stay away from them.. BUT that just doesnt happen because as i stated.. people black or white are a product of the enviorment they are raised in.. they are a product of the people who raise them.. they are NOT a product of the shade of color they happen to be.. the color you are should afford you any advantage OR disadvantage.. this crutch.. is the same lame crutch that people who are say.. morbidly obese use.. oh feel sorry for me.. im not equal to you my lie is hard... i DONT.. you have a life.. and you have the choice to make the best of it.. or sit and cry about it.. like i said.. im white.. ive been down.. ive been poor.. ive been homeless.. im not either now.. NOT because someone felt sorry for me and bought into my little pitty party (because there was no pitty party).. NOT because my government saved me.. simply because i CHOSE not to live that lifre anymore.. EVERYONE has free will.. and the choice to persue more.. the moment you stop looking for people to blame your problems on.. and the moment you start FIXING them on your own.. the sooner you will become all you can be.. i dont need any lame statistics.. or sob stories about racial inequality.. if jim bobs iron factory turns you down because you are black.. go build your own iron plant.. put him out of business.. instead of wasting the next five years crying about how its unfair that he didnt hire you.. thats a HUGE waste of everyones time...
lol all this that u wrote only applies when every1 IS equal to begin with...however that is not how shyt was for example say in the US from the begining of the US!!!

the crutch originated because of the unequality that existed..whether u believe it or not it still exists...people STILL discriminate..yes there are white employers out there who will bypass a colored folk for a less qualified white person...ofcourse it is not as rampant as it once was but it is..

if Rosa Parks never refused to give up that seat then shyt might have stayed the same for a long time..we just don't know...but at this day and time yes u should not use race as a crutch however some might use it just for sheer advantage while others might use it because they have to or are forced to...
 


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Going-West said:
Common usage > dictionary definition.

Honestly, basing an argument over semantics and technicalities does nothing but point out faults in your main argument. It doesn't lead to a more civil and educated argument, it just annoys people...especially when it doesn't contribute to the original debate.
It still doesn't change that people from Honduras largely came from Spain. People from Spain largely originated from other Europeans, who largely originated from Africa, just like everyone else.

It doesn't matter WHAT you call them. Common usage term or dictionary term or whatever... they still came from the same people (who happen to be called Caucasians).

Okay, so Carcharodon carcharias... that's a technical useage term. Now, does it mean I'm wrong if I call it that since most people call it something else? NO.
 

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NOFX said:
It still doesn't change that people from Honduras largely came from Spain. People from Spain largely originated from other Europeans, who largely originated from Africa, just like everyone else.

It doesn't matter WHAT you call them. Common usage term or dictionary term or whatever... they still came from the same people (who happen to be called Caucasians).

Okay, so Carcharodon carcharias... that's a technical useage term. Now, does it mean I'm wrong if I call it that since most people call it something else? NO.
actually Honduran people are most commonly descendant of the Mayan peoples. Yeah spanish f**kers raped indigenous women at the time so of course we have some bg of spanish....but hardly any to say we are caucasian or that we largely came from spain.

if you can argue that...then i can argue that you are part Neanderthal as well. (i dont mean this offensively) :lol:
 

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some of the smileys in this website make me crack up but this one takes the cake...so do you see this as a documentary or a chick flick cause of NOFX....(just playing) :lol:
 

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Astheros said:
actually Honduran people are most commonly descendant of the Mayan peoples. Yeah spanish f**kers raped indigenous women at the time so of course we have some bg of spanish....but hardly any to say we are caucasian or that we largely came from spain.

if you can argue that...then i can argue that you are part Neanderthal as well. (i dont mean this offensively) :lol:
Well, that's why like I said earlier, you are likely decended from the Spanish. It's likely you have Spanish blood in you somewhere back there. I also previously mentioned the Mayans. ;) Just like it's likely I have "modern" black ancestory (as in, since my family came to America). I don't know of it for sure... but it's very possible.

Oh, and Neanderthals aren't the same species as humans. :P We came from Homo saphiens (we're actually Homo sapiens sapiens). Both Humans and Neanderthals do share the same genus though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_(genus)
 

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Blazed said:
lol all this that u wrote only applies when every1 IS equal to begin with...however that is not how shyt was for example say in the US from the begining of the US!!!

the crutch originated because of the unequality that existed..whether u believe it or not it still exists...people STILL discriminate..yes there are white employers out there who will bypass a colored folk for a less qualified white person...ofcourse it is not as rampant as it once was but it is..

if Rosa Parks never refused to give up that seat then shyt might have stayed the same for a long time..we just don't know...but at this day and time yes u should not use race as a crutch however some might use it just for sheer advantage while others might use it because they have to or are forced to...
and you can't tell me that aren't minority employers who won't hire white people. the door swings both ways.
 

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Akiahara96 said:
and you can't tell me that aren't minority employers who won't hire white people. the door swings both ways.
Yep, there are assholes on all sides. :what:
 

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i found it and had to post it, i wanted to see everyone's different oppinion on the picture. i thought it was really funny.

to me in the world today you get wat u take out of life. nothing should be given to you. no matter wat race or religion you are.
 

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NOFX said:
Well, that's why like I said earlier, you are likely decended from the Spanish. It's likely you have Spanish blood in you somewhere back there. I also previously mentioned the Mayans. ;) Just like it's likely I have "modern" black ancestory (as in, since my family came to America). I don't know of it for sure... but it's very possible.

Oh, and Neanderthals aren't the same species as humans. :P We came from Homo saphiens (we're actually Homo sapiens sapiens). Both Humans and Neanderthals do share the same genus though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_(genus)
liar liar...pants on fire...in the beginning there was only one cell...and that cell turned into 2...and then four...and then those 4 eventually turned into a center for kids who cant read good.

so i call bullshit on you...cause were actually all related by the great Amoeba. :lol:

now get me some Tofu and lets sing Kumbaya around the bonfire
 


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