i have a 94 hatch...and i had an apexi put on diagonal and it looks ok...but i wanted it more slanted and more upward....no one would do what i wanted.....i looked up all of this stuff earlier and i came up with these pics from slammed_93_hatch or something http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=21158&highlight=slanted+exhaust i live in the 951 area code so if anybody knows any shops that will do a good job for a reasonabl price lemme know. The reason this is bugging me was for one ( the piping setup is cramped and doesn't breathe like it should and i want it at more of an angle..lemme know if you guys know n e one that can do it for me