What happened to the "Don't like it, Don't click it rule?"

Mr. Jollypants

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Whats with all the graphic threads being closed? It has a warning for a reason, but people still click it. Isn't this what the golden rule is for? :what:
 

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Well, some people believe that kind of material doesn't belong on CC.
 


Mr. Jollypants

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They need to grow the f**k up. Honestly. If you don't like it, don't click it.

Oh wait, that's right, people want the website the run around their lives and beliefs.
 

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Welp can't please everyone.
 


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im sure everybody has violated this rule.

yes even me :shock:
 

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i agree. if you don't like it, don't click it. LIVE AND LET LIVE.

i don't wanna have to go register "clubciviclounge.com" and host my own forum.
 

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sigh...

The problem is simple.. its like one person would post a sick video here and there, and that would be the end of it.. but lately there's been a rash of attempts to one up one another cluttering the VIP lounge with the most gross videos that can be found on the net.. its internet-attention-whoring at its finest... "look at me I found the sickest video"... what you all forget is there are families and loved ones behind those images.. its not some piece of f**king meat.... its not some random piece of road kill... its someone's brother.. sister.. father.. being mutilated to no end.... every time those videos are posted in an attempt to add to your "e-fame", you disrespect that family, and the death of that person... see you sit there and say oh the internet is free.. we should be free to post what we want... if your girlfriend was gang raped and mutilated would you want people having some "e-circle jerk" over the video? would you want it used to gross out someone online... no.. you wouldn't.. who knows i'm sure in a lot of these videos people got what was coming to them... but I am also sure others were innocent victims... again just to be clear.. if it was ONE video here and there of something current that had some social relevance (ex: video of saddam hanging... video of bank shootout that happened in your town) that would be one thing.. but that's not what's happening.. it seems like all VIP has been reduced to is 1) getting people to click on some sexual thing that they would not normally want to see... 2) a gross out contest... both of which are lame.. you say the golden rule.. following your logic we should allow people to post videos of ANYTHING including things like child molestation? Obviously there has to be some rules since people are not mature enough to decide on what is appropriate and what is not..
 

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Why not create one thread for it then? :what:

Sounds like a simple and effective solution.
 

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i dont think we have the ability to make a warning sign big enough for such a thread
 

ScratchNSniff

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Why not create one thread for it then? :what:

Sounds like a simple and effective solution.
Agreed...

And oc...just so you know...it was through reading about an article that I found all three of the vids posted...

I found the content VERY disturbing, but it is something that I thought maybe some poeple would want to see...which some did even though not all did...I am not sorry for posting them up and for all I know there is still no rule for posting them up...

Will I post up more, no, because you have said that you guys are reviewing it and that it is being discussed...I respect that...

The vids in mention WERE NOT meant to cause this "asshurt" army of people against them...ample warning WAS posted, but people still decided that they still wanted to watch them...

I personally didn't make it all the way through any of the three vids, but honestly do not understand why they shouldn't be posted...

If it is all about peoples families and kids on the site seeing this, then why have pornography, disturbing images (not related to those aforementioned), a thread on illegal drugs...

It would be smart to possibly make the VIP thread an Over18 thread since people are then technicly by law able to make decisions and view the materials in there for themselves...

That is just my opinion...
 

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Agreed...

And oc...just so you know...it was through reading about an article that I found all three of the vids posted...

I found the content VERY disturbing, but it is something that I thought maybe some poeple would want to see...which some did even though not all did...I am not sorry for posting them up and for all I know there is still no rule for posting them up...

Will I post up more, no, because you have said that you guys are reviewing it and that it is being discussed...I respect that...

The vids in mention WERE NOT meant to cause this "asshurt" army of people against them...ample warning WAS posted, but people still decided that they still wanted to watch them...

I personally didn't make it all the way through any of the three vids, but honestly do not understand why they shouldn't be posted...

If it is all about peoples families and kids on the site seeing this, then why have pornography, disturbing images (not related to those aforementioned), a thread on illegal drugs...

It would be smart to possibly make the VIP thread an Over18 thread since people are then technicly by law able to make decisions and view the materials in there for themselves...

That is just my opinion...
you did not address my comment about limitations.. its easy to say NO limitations.. but then someone posts a video of child rape.. is that ok because some people might like it?

and to address the drug thing... this is a world wide site... and in MANY nations marijuana is NOT illegal.. even in many parts of the united states its legal with a prescription.. marijuana use and someones face bashed in with a hammer are not similar..
 
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you did not address my comment about limitations.. its easy to say NO limitations.. but then someone posts a video of child rape.. is that ok because some people might like it?

and to address the drug thing... this is a world wide site... and in MANY nations marijuana is NOT illegal.. even in many parts of the united states its legal with a prescription.. marijuana use and someones face bashed in with a hammer are not similar..

And I agree there should be some regulations...and the VIP age is one...along with the thread requirements...IMO I see nothing wrong with posting murder/suicide/assasination threads...I do however not agree with child abuse/child pornography as it IS against the law...there is no such law against viewing a murder...

I know you can sit here and say that I would not want people putting me up on the internet if I were tortured and I am sure I wouldn't, but the fact of life is that it could happen...some people, even if you and some others don't agree, don't find these videos as bad as y'all do...

Like said before, it is not like me or others plot the beatings and slayings of people...it is simply something that I watch...ample warning was put up and people knew exactly what was going to be there BEFORE they clicked on it...it is not my or anyone else who would post a vid as suchs problem if MAJOR WARNING has been posted and people still click...

There would be much more grounds for this if I were of posted "NWS" for the title and just had a link...which I could of done...I had the decency not to though...

Thoughts...
 

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And I agree there should be some regulations...and the VIP age is one...along with the thread requirements...IMO I see nothing wrong with posting murder/suicide/assasination threads...I do however not agree with child abuse/child pornography as it IS against the law...there is no such law against viewing a murder...

I know you can sit here and say that I would not want people putting me up on the internet if I were tortured and I am sure I wouldn't, but the fact of life is that it could happen...some people, even if you and some others don't agree, don't find these videos as bad as y'all do...

Like said before, it is not like me or others plot the beatings and slayings of people...it is simply something that I watch...ample warning was put up and people knew exactly what was going to be there BEFORE they clicked on it...it is not my or anyone else who would post a vid as suchs problem if MAJOR WARNING has been posted and people still click...

There would be much more grounds for this if I were of posted "NWS" for the title and just had a link...which I could of done...I had the decency not to though...

Thoughts...
and again i answer that it is both the cultural standard of you and i that dictate child sex being bad and not something that belongs...but i am sure there are parts of the world where it is not viewed the same...it doesnt make it right..with all due respect.. youve said all you need to say on the matter, oddly its about 5 of you that don't want limits and several times that number that DO want limits.. ive gotten MANY pm messages since this thread went up stating that the murder s**t is over the top...im sorry you disagree... it will continue to be discussed by the staff and we will render a decision shortly...
 

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and again i answer that it is both the cultural standard of you and i that dictate child sex being bad and not something that belongs...but i am sure there are parts of the world where it is not viewed the same...it doesnt make it right..with all due respect.. youve said all you need to say on the matter, oddly its about 5 of you that don't want limits and several times that number that DO want limits.. ive gotten MANY pm messages since this thread went up stating that the murder s**t is over the top...im sorry you disagree... it will continue to be discussed by the staff and we will render a decision shortly...
Thank you for the response...will it be made public the decision, or will you be able to send me it through PM...

Thanks for your time...
 

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Well, some people believe that kind of material doesn't belong on CC.
i'm not one of them, and i still stick by that this is why we have a VIP sect.
 

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i'm not one of them, and i still stick by that this is why we have a VIP sect.
well, I'm not one of them either but it looks like there's nothing we can do about it anyway. :(
 

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The "Don't Like It, Don't Click It" rule could cover a LOT more than just the threads mentioned.

It's still a "rule" that's broken all the time anyway.
The vids in mention WERE NOT meant to cause this "asshurt" army of people against them...ample warning WAS posted, but people still decided that they still wanted to watch them...
I don't believe everyone who didn't think it should have been posted watched the video(s). I didn't really want to see them, so I didn't watch them. While I didn't make a stink over it, I don't understand why it was posted to begin with.

I posted the video description in the one thread in case anyone wanted to know what was shown, but didn't want to actually see it.

Perhaps if other videos are allowed to be posted, a full description is posted in the first post too, along with a big warning stating that a beating and/or murder (or whatever) is going to be shown. Perhaps say if it's a beating with a hammer versus a guy being run over, etc.

There was a time when things like those videos were interesting to me. Pure curiosity. But it's grown old and I see it as more than just "some guy" now. Photographs were always what I preferred anyway. You could study the details better (I've always been interested in forensics). The posting of video always feels like it has more to do with shock value than anything else.
If it is all about peoples families and kids on the site seeing this, then why have pornography, disturbing images (not related to those aforementioned), a thread on illegal drugs...
Post a video of someone actually being forced to have their naked body videotaped or forced to shoot up, and see how that's taken compared to normal porn and drug use.

It's about people being harmed against their will. I'm sure some videos that could be posted (such as the BME OIympics) involve people who are willing participants, but perhaps the imagery is just too brutal for most to want to watch anyway.
It would be smart to possibly make the VIP thread an Over18 thread since people are then technicly by law able to make decisions and view the materials in there for themselves...
I've thought about the 18+ thing with VIP back when I was a mod. If underage people are viewing the thread and the people posting or hosting that are aware of that, then that could be seen as providing pornography for minors.

The problem is, without credit card numbers no one will be proving their 18 or older anyway. It's easy to change your age or just lie to begin with.

There are sites out there where almost all of the content is like what's being mentioned in this thread.
 

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Just because 1 person thinks murder / suicide / assassination videos are okay to post, doesn't mean everyone else thinks they are... Yes, you warn people that what you are about to view is graphic, but all you say is "graphic" or "NWS" or "don't click it if you don't like it". Well how the f**k are you supposed to know if you're not gonna like something you know nothing about? Graphic can mean so many things. Is it animals dead? Someone getting beaten and stabbed to death? Or a simple video of someone popping a ginormous white head. There are billions of people in this world that all have different perceptions on what they find disgusting and what they can / cannot tolerate.

Like Eran said in your closed thread, you (scratch guy) are purposefully stirring the pot. I know you know the rules. We know you know the rules. But after 2 closed threads and much arguing, I know you wouldn't hesitate to keep posting them if they weren't causing this site such a headache. What you don't understand is s**t like that is just wrong. Yes, the internet is free, but posting videos like those comes at a cost.

Scratch - do you have a dog? Wife? Girlfriend? Anyone special to you? Now picture this: let me come over, take the someone somewhere, beat the s**t out of him/her, hit the person in the face with a hammer as hard as I can, take a screwdriver and stab their stomach several times, and whatever else I please. THEN, let me host that video on the internet for the world to view, THEN post it on here and try to start a "discussion". How would you point of view of such videos be? I'm sure you'd be like the other people on the other side of a computer telling you that ain't right.
 


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