FRODO said:
Not only does it have stupid long gears the make you pretty much drop out of vtec but they are just s**t. ....until you learn your s**t and learn how to have a little respect for people that actually know what they are saying i suggest you keep your usless post out of here.
Have you ever owned an H22A???? Drop out of VTEC? H22 trans has the shortest of the H23 and F22 trans. I NEVER had the H22 trans on mine. I had an H23 tranny first, then an F22 (longest gears)
Does the H22 drop out of VTEC on each shift, no
Did my H23? No
Did my F22? ONLY going into 2nd by 500rpm, as for the remaining gears.....................................................................no
You have very little experience with the H-series drivetrain as well as an H-series in general so I suggest you not post until you get a little of it under your belt.
FRODO said:
And yes its "stupid long" meaning almost every shifts drops you out of vtec which does s**t for acceleration, 0-60, 1/4 mile, whole shots and pretty much everything else that has to do with staying in the power range. So yeah its kinda like putting a LS trans on a GSR.....
No..... not quite like putting an LS trans on a GSR, because neither have torque big guy. It's alot easier for an H22A to accelerate with longer gears so you can't really compare a lower displacent motors' drivetrain to a much larger engines'. And if "stupid long" gears does s**t for acceleration, please explain to me why an ITR's 0-60 time is damn near a half of a second slower than that of saaaay, a 1995 Prelude VTEC. That's right, you can't (7.0 ITR........6.7 Prelude, average times)
Blazed said:
u really dont try to listen...
my point stands..that stock c5 will win in a 1/4 mile against a stock h22 in the same chassis with all variables being equal..
hahhaa....no...your point does NOT stand. In fact, it has been lying down ever since your first ridiculous post. I can assure you, typing the same thing over and over about how a C5 will pass an H22A in the 1/4 is far from "civil"
Gearing: Introduce proper gearing for each motor and things start to change. You can make the lower torque motor perform better in acceleration and the higher torque motor perform better on top end.
Aerodynamics: Put a bulldozer plow on the front of your two cars and the higher torque car will have a greater top end than the higher reving motor.
HAHAH! Well thanks for prooving my point you damn genious you! You said from the start that the B18C5 will pass it up top... The H22A will ONLY get it on the launch right???? Oh so now your agreeing with the guys on K20A, who said the SAME thing I said. Just read the bold text above.
Now, the part I bolded out for you is similar to what I was saying....No....Wait, it was the SAME THING!!!! But you were too deep into Type-R Lala land and didn't understand. The lower torque motor will be badass acceleration, no doubt. BUT after 3rd gear it falls on it's face compared to the H22A. Hence the higher TQ motor performing BETTER on top end! Wow way to "proove me wrong" Blazed. Nice try.
Frodo, Blazed, and Not-so-$lick Rick.....I don't know why you guys think you are big enough H22A gurus to sit there and say it sucks against a Type-R. You know NOTHING about them. It's my guess that you have NEVER owned one. I do not have one anymore but have had one, and get to work on them all the time still. When I had a stock H22A in my 92 Lude with a 2 1/4 exhaust and Falkens. Out of the 3-4 actual bolton ITR's I ran.....not one of them pulled on me or even got even. Keep sprinkling your pixie dust all over the C5.... I think it's hilarious.
I will ask Olock to partake in posting video of his H22A soon to show you how he does against B18C5's with similar weight and equal mods. Just keep an eye out for the thread. It will be quite funny to hear the stupid excuses you guys try to come up with I can almost read them already.