Don't blame Fram because you forgot to check to make sure the seal came off with the filter. That's your mistake. Not Fram's. I hate people who blame company's products for their own mistakes.
Why not Fram oil filters?
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LOL LOL LOL WTF WTF lol cracked me up.... But I am now NOT buying Honda Filters anymore that is for sure!
i use wixWOW, Thanks for the link man...that fram filter looks horrible!!! I will never purchase another fram filter for my cars again....
ive been using the fram tough guard filters on my ls/vtec. part num 7317 i believe. havent had any complaints. i really cant justify paying top dollar for an oil filter that gets 3k miles worth of use on a daily driver 
I don't understand why anyone would use a Fram.
With all the info and tests out there, they are the only ones said to stay away from.
There are plenty of filters 10 times better for the about the same price.
Some even cheaper.
Just because you don't notice a difference don't think there's not one.
that's foolish stubborness, what's it take, for your engine to
have a problem before you want something better for it.
I've heard knocking engines stop knocking just because the Fram filter was taken off
and replaced with a better one.
The Fram restricts oil flow, period.
You're not going to notice the difference usually, but it's there.
Why would anyone risk it?
But then I've known people that's never changed their oil and said they've never had a problem.
So that must make it alright, maybe you should all do that too!
At least that'll save you some money, buying a Fram won't.
Go to the end and read "filters to avoid"
http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilters.html
With all the info and tests out there, they are the only ones said to stay away from.
There are plenty of filters 10 times better for the about the same price.
Some even cheaper.
Just because you don't notice a difference don't think there's not one.
that's foolish stubborness, what's it take, for your engine to
have a problem before you want something better for it.
I've heard knocking engines stop knocking just because the Fram filter was taken off
and replaced with a better one.
The Fram restricts oil flow, period.
You're not going to notice the difference usually, but it's there.
Why would anyone risk it?
But then I've known people that's never changed their oil and said they've never had a problem.
So that must make it alright, maybe you should all do that too!
At least that'll save you some money, buying a Fram won't.
Go to the end and read "filters to avoid"
http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilters.html
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So I guess my experience and my brothers experience (previous and only other owner of my car) with my car and the 200,9xx miles on it that has seen Fram for almost all of it is just a bunch of nonsense?I don't understand why anyone would use a Fram.
With all the info and tests out there, they are the only ones said to stay away from.
There are plenty of filters 10 times better for the about the same price.
Some even cheaper.
Just because you don't notice a difference don't think there's not one.
that's foolish stubborness, what's it take, for your engine to
have a problem before you want something better for it.
I've heard knocking engines stop knocking just because the Fram filter was taken off
and replaced with a better one.
The Fram restricts oil flow, period.
You're not going to notice the difference usually, but it's there.
Why would anyone risk it?
But then I've known people that's never changed their oil and said they've never had a problem.
So that must make it alright, maybe you should all do that too!
At least that'll save you some money, buying a Fram won't.
Go to the end and read "filters to avoid"
http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilters.html
Fram works. Are there better alternatives? Sure, from a factual and technical point. But does it work fine? Yes.
ive never had an oil related problem using fram filters. maybe i just always buy good ones and everybody else gets lemons
for real. I've used nothing but fram for the past 5 years and haven't had any problems.
ive never had an oil related problem using fram filters. maybe i just always buy good ones and everybody else gets lemons
Anyone ever tried quakerstate filters before? If so, how do they hold up?
I wont run that crap oil so I wouldn't run the filter either....
Now to what everyone else is saying, the POINT is that there is a CHANCE you will have problems. Sure you may NEVER have an issue, it has just been proven with even several links of this post that they are crap filters, they use CARDBOARD to hold it together! It has been proven that it can fall apart and leave partical's in your oil POSSIBLY causing a problem. No one has said No matter what it will mess up.
Fram is a poorly made filter and is recommended to not be used, if you want to risk it go for it, but IF that day comes, you will wish you would of spent the extra dollar.
You get what you pay for, you take care of your car it will take care of YOU simple as that....
Cars are 100% proven to break down at some point, otherwise there would be no need for junkyards
I don't use fram though. The last time I did, it was stuck so hard I had to crush it to get enough of a grip to torque it off... and then I got covered in oil because I couldn't dodge it.
Well I never said that they don't lol and THANK GOD for junk yards! But yes I have had to do that with a few Filters as well! The joy of doing oil for other people god KNOWS who or where that filter was installed at!Cars are 100% proven to break down at some point, otherwise there would be no need for junkyards
I don't use fram though. The last time I did, it was stuck so hard I had to crush it to get enough of a grip to torque it off... and then I got covered in oil because I couldn't dodge it.
http://www.jakesgarage.ca/2008/12/oil-filters-more-than-you-ever-wanted.html
Here is another GREAT link on the CRAPPY FRAM! It shows very detailed pictures and info, the guy even took a bosch and a Fram down to the paper and stretched it to show the Fram was WAY shorter than the Bosch....
Everyone, it is your car, do what you please, changing the oil every 3k helps no matter what, but I feel that there is ENOUGH proof here that Fram has a chance of screwing up your car, or having problems with filtration.
lol. we had this debate come up on a local board a few months back. a guy cut open a fram filter and an oem honda filter. guess what? same exact thing internally