06 Si vs. EK9 w/ a B16a generation II

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i have a friend that has a 96 hatch ( EK9 ) that has a B16a gen. 2....and i have a 2006 Si..we tested our cars yesterday from about stop light to stop light which gives us about less than a 1/4 mile length...at 1st and 2nd gear i took him easily but as soon as we shift to 3rd gear that's when he started to pull away and won the race of about a 1/2 car length..and yeah we're both good drivers...now how could this possibly be when his is 170 hp stock and mine is 197 bhp...what did i do wrong??? i rev at 4000 rpm before take off..i doubled clucth on 1st and 2nd gear..is there anything else that i could have done to win??
 

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double clutching is a fast and furious term. You don't need to do it in anything anymore. You either messed something up with that, or you're not as good of a driver as you though.
 


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His car is A LOT lighter than yours, that's why you lost. His car should be faster than yours, but it wasn't by much so I'd say you drove pretty well. Given how responsive the k series motors are, an intake and exhaust would almost insure you winning next time you go at it, but be careful racing on public roads.
 

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his car = 2400 LBS
your car = 2900+

weight plays a big difference when its that much of an amount
 


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i might doubt the good driver adjective after taking lessons from toreto.
 

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wmertz said:
i might doubt the good driver adjective after taking lessons from toreto.
:rolf:
 

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Since we dont need to double clutch anything anymore he should take lessons from O'Connor instead of toreto because O'Connor doesnt double clutch like he "should"
 

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more weight + fucked up power curver = you loose.

go look at a dyno graph of a stock 2006 Si and you will see how much power you dont make




sure we have a good peak hp but there is not much power before the peak


this is taken from hondata's site for more info on this graph go there

http://www.hondata.com/
 

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I would say the weight has more to do with it than the power curve, the b16's power curve is not exactly smooth or subtle.
 

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Blahman240 said:
double clutching is a fast and furious term. You don't need to do it in anything anymore. You either messed something up with that, or you're not as good of a driver as you though.
:werd:
 

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Blahman240 said:
double clutching is a fast and furious term. You don't need to do it in anything anymore. You either messed something up with that, or you're not as good of a driver as you though.
Not to go off topic, but double clutching is not a "thing of the past" or a fast and furious term... if you don't double clutch when you down shift... then.. well yeah, speaks for itself, but I agree that you dont have to double clutch when shifting up in a race really.
 
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actually the new Si's weigh 2871 stock....an Ek weighs in at about 2,400 around there. And what mods di the b16 have, intake and full exhaust should be enough to hang with the Si. They are quick they run 14.8 stock. My friend has one. And she beat my B16 ED7 all the time!

P.S. I had Stage 3 clutchmaster, 7.5lb flywheel, full 2.5 inch exhaust and test pipe and DC header, Magnacore wires, Denso iridiums, Hancook tires, and a bunch more and the Si was even with me! :suprise:
 
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DOHC_V-Tec said:
i have a friend that has a 96 hatch ( EK9 ) that has a B16a gen. 2....and i have a 2006 Si..we tested our cars yesterday from about stop light to stop light which gives us about less than a 1/4 mile length...at 1st and 2nd gear i took him easily but as soon as we shift to 3rd gear that's when he started to pull away and won the race of about a 1/2 car length..and yeah we're both good drivers...now how could this possibly be when his is 170 hp stock and mine is 197 bhp...what did i do wrong??? i rev at 4000 rpm before take off..i doubled clucth on 1st and 2nd gear..is there anything else that i could have done to win??
they are all right, you shouldnt be beating him, but with i/h/e you should be able to beat him

and on a side note, your friends car is not an ek9, its an ej6
 




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