RonJ
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This^ is where soaking in PB Blaster (or equivalent) is also like buying an insurance policy. It not only makes it easier to break the bolt loose, it also lessens the chance of breaking the bolt off.
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RonJ
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I do have a cheap air compressor for these^ types of purposes, but not manly enough to power any self-respecting power tool.i just like air compressors since you can fill tires then, dust things off, all the other air tools, paint gun.
true, and if that fails yet and you continue. its probably going to snapThis^ is where soaking in PB Blaster (or equivalent) is also like buying an insurance policy. It not only makes it easier to break the bolt loose, it also lessens the chance of breaking the bolt off.
another technique is to make your own impact gun. you take your wrench/ ratchet, put it on, and smack it with a hammer. may take a few times and a bit of force, but keeping going at it. its the same exact concept as an impact gun. teacher actually taught me this to take a crank pulley bolt out once lol was tight enough to spin the crank instead of loosening. he told me to hit it with a hammer and it worked
RonJ
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I've heard of a few Civic crank bolts that broke, but it seems uncommon. More common is to hear that the breaker bar or socket breaks. I think the Honda crank bolt is made of Kryptonite.true, and if that fails yet and you continue. its probably going to snap
Wouldn't you need the hex tool to hold the pulley steady for this hammer method to work?another technique is to make your own impact gun. you take your wrench/ ratchet, put it on, and smack it with a hammer. may take a few times and a bit of force, but keeping going at it. its the same exact concept as an impact gun. teacher actually taught me this to take a crank pulley bolt out once lol was tight enough to spin the crank instead of loosening. he told me to hit it with a hammer and it worked
we didnt use anything to hold the pulley, but i mean it wouldnt hurt. its like using a crappy impact gun lolI've heard of a few Civic crank bolts that broke, but it seems uncommon. More common is to hear that the breaker bar or socket breaks. I think the Honda crank bolt is made of Kryptonite.
Wouldn't you need the hex tool to hold the pulley steady for this hammer method to work?
what I did when I took the crank bolt off my car for doing the timing belt is, I only jacked up the drivers side then put the car in gear and had my brother push the breaks as hard as possible while I used a breaker bar and some extra pipe.... seemed to work just fine and I didn't need the hex tool. but then again my car is a texas car so it doesn't see a lot of the salt and s**t that some of y'alls have to deal with
RonJ
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As mentioned, if your buddy has a good impact wrench, the hex tool is not needed. If you decide to go the breaker bar/hex tool route, then you'll need this:hmmm might have to ask my buddy about this technique, but ron what type of hex tool is needed??
http://www.amazon.com/Alltrade-648796-Crankcase-Pulley-Removal/dp/B0000TMLWQ/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1200085561&sr=8-1
impact gun should be your first choice if possible 0_oUse the special Honda hex key. Use jack stand to brace socket extensions against and use 5 ft cheater bar over breaker bar. Try to avoid impact tool as it could snap the bolt. Use second guys foot to brace extension against jack stand. good luck.
either way, if you're using a mechanic, he should know what to do. I just had this done on Saturday and we used the jack stand method. Worked just fine. He advised against using impact tool because of the chance of the bolt snapping. And this is a full time mechanic of 30 years, not a noob or weekend mechanicimpact gun should be your first choice if possible 0_o
go in a garage, guarentee 90% of the time they will use an impact. and the hammering impact part causes the threads to loosen up inside. kinda similar to how you smack a control arm to break the taper/bond between a ball jointeither way, if you're using a mechanic, he should know what to do. I just had this done on Saturday and we used the jack stand method. Worked just fine. He advised against using impact tool because of the chance of the bolt snapping. And this is a full time mechanic of 30 years, not a noob or weekend mechanic
and im not a noob or weekend mechanic either lol
im also not saying breaker bars are bad, they are more budget friendly. but impact will be easier and just as safe as a breaker bar. putting a pipe on the breaker bar will make power torque than a impact gun. which is where you will break it, if you manage to
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wasn't saying you were...just restating a very trusted mechanic's opinionand im not a noob or weekend mechanic either
RonJ
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Could get a big monkey wrench...It will leave bite marks on the pulley tho.
Haha...that's a new one.
On my old prelude I stuck a screwdriver in the starter hole and used it to brace the flywheel and then used the old breaker bar and extra pipe lol
RonJ
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Here's a guy who has tried a lot already to break the crank bolt loose.go in a garage, guarentee 90% of the time they will use an impact. and the hammering impact part causes the threads to loosen up inside. kinda similar to how you smack a control arm to break the taper/bond between a ball joint
and im not a noob or weekend mechanic either lol
im also not saying breaker bars are bad, they are more budget friendly. but impact will be easier and just as safe as a breaker bar. putting a pipe on the breaker bar will make power torque than a impact gun. which is where you will break it, if you manage to
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?p=47138551#post47138551
He's broken a breaker bar and 2 extensions, but luckily not the crank bolt.
What the hell would you recommend here?